<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Ron: <br><br>A promising fancy - using some AQMs and breath analyzers with and without gas. The only issue is how you would compute the differential in health conditions, with what baselines for how long. <br><br>Kirk Smith is good for  this. I think $10 millions for 20 full-time PhD students for five years should do it. <br><br>N<br><br><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="georgia, serif">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Nikhil Desai</font></div><div><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">(US +1) 202 568 5831</span><font face="georgia, serif"><br><i>Skype: nikhildesai888</i><br></font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:45 PM Ronal Larson <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Paul and list:<div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">      </span>Your key phrase here is:</div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i>"'<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">This is enriching the oil companies at the expense of the poor and mis-direction of government funds."</span></i><br><div> </div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">       </span>I’d be glad to contribute some analysis, but we need data.  Presumably not much change in health issues for the very poor (because of stove stacking). Is any health data being connected that could show not much change after starting gas use?  We then need to prove that the same amount of money would mean better health as income goes up with biochar-related income.  My gut feeling (like yours) is that could occur.</div><div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 29, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Stovers,<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The attached file could be of interest to many of you.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Please note this very recent document about LPG stoves in India.   It reveals the approach and plans of the LPG gas industry regarding LPG stoves for India.   The government unfortunately has accepted this approach and provides substantial funding.   But  being based on fossil fuel, it can only be a temporary solution (maybe for a decade or two).  <u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This is enriching the oil companies at the expense of the poor and mis-direction of government funds.   We want the  poor to have clean cooking.  And that is possible with existing Woodgas TLUD technology.  Fossil fuels are a business-opportunity side-track.    But ultimately, the Woodgas stoves will replace most of them, especially for the poorest people who are closely tied to wood and dung and biomass fuels.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Paul                ( I admit to my bias, which is based on accomplishments of Woodgas technology. )<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website:  <span> </span><a href="http://www.drtlud.com/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">www.drtlud.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">     Email: <span> </span><a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">psanders@ilstu.edu</span></a>       Skype:   paultlud<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">     Phone:  Office: 309-452-7072    Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP<span> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">     Go to:<span> </span><a href="http://www.juntosnfp.org/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">www.JuntosNFP.org</span></a>  to support woodgas (TLUD) projects<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">     incl. purchase of Woodgas Emission Reduction (WER) carbon credits<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">     and please tell you friends about these distinctive service efforts.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Author of “<i>A Capitalist Carol</i>” (free digital copies at<span> </span><a href="http://www.capitalism21.org/" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">www.capitalism21.org</span></a>)<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">     with pages 88 – 94 about  solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1.5pt;border-left-color:blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1.5pt;border-left-color:blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span id="gmail-m_-3220656437770940797cid:image001.png@01D5BDDB.02B10220"><image001.png></span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div><div style="border-style:none none solid;border-bottom-width:1pt;border-bottom-color:windowtext;padding:0in 0in 1pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div></div></div></div><span id="gmail-m_-3220656437770940797cid:684F09DEF2EE87479BC927539F52A4F0@namprd03.prod.outlook.com"><CCAPC Policy Brief Dec 2019 05.pdf></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Stoves mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration: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