<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nikhil , list and Crispin both can confirm the following)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>See inserts:</div><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 2, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Nikhil Desai <<a href="mailto:ndesai@alum.mit.edu" class="">ndesai@alum.mit.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Ron: <br class=""><br class="">Not fair. I had sent it to only you and Crispin. <br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><b class="">[RWL: Not true: Here is a screen shot showing what I (and the list and Crispin) received. Have you looked at what you sent?</b></div><div><b class=""><br class=""></b></div><div><img apple-inline="yes" id="55BE210D-28EA-4D09-BDC7-E0E6D6B7F8EA" width="640" height="247" src="cid:CC990A77-85B1-41FC-A307-C56AC88A07C7" class=""><b class=""><br class=""></b><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">I am tired of reading the likes of these authors. <br class=""><br class="">And I don't care what I write in private. <br class=""><br class="">I expect an apology. <br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><b class="">[RWL: Do you still?</b></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">Not that I give a damn what you find on your google searches. <br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><b class="">[RWL: But many of us do care about what you write about others - whose work we generally admire. I believe almost everybody object to ad hominem attacks - which reduce readership on this list.</b></div><div><b class=""><br class=""></b></div><div><b class="">Ron</b></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">N<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class="">------------------------</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class="">Nikhil Desai</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small" class="">(US +1) 202 568 5831</span><font face="georgia, serif" class=""><br class=""><i class="">Skype: nikhildesai888</i></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 7:44 PM Ronal Larson <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank" class="">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="">Nikhil. Cc List: This came up when I did a google search:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="display:table;word-break:break-word;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><div style="font-size:28px;min-height:36px;margin-bottom:0px;line-height:normal" class=""><div style="vertical-align:top;line-height:36px" class=""><span class="">ad ho·mi·nem</span></div></div><div style="font-size:14px;line-height:16px;color:rgb(112,117,122)" class=""><span class="">/ˌad ˈhämənəm/</span></div></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Roboto,arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-variant-ligatures:normal;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><div class=""><div style="display:flex" class=""><div style="font-size:14px" class=""><div style="padding-top:10px;min-height:20px" class=""><i class="">adjective</i></div><div style="overflow:hidden;max-height:0px;color:rgb(135,135,135)" class=""><b class=""></b></div></div></div><ol style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 20px;border:0px;display:flex" class=""><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;list-style:none" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size:14px;padding-top:10px" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin-left:20px" class=""><div style="font-size:small" class=""><div style="display:inline" class="">(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.</div><div class=""><div style="color:rgb(135,135,135)" class="">"vicious ad hominem attacks"</div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:20px" class=""></div></div></div></li></ol></div><div class=""><div style="display:flex" class=""><div style="font-size:14px" class=""><div style="padding-top:10px;min-height:20px" class=""><i class="">adverb</i></div><div style="overflow:hidden;max-height:0px;color:rgb(135,135,135)" class=""><b class=""></b></div></div></div><ol style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 20px;border:0px;display:flex" class=""><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;list-style:none" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size:14px;padding-top:10px" class=""><div class=""><div style="float:left" class="">1.</div><div style="margin-left:20px" class=""><div style="font-size:small" class=""><div style="display:inline" class="">in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.</div><div class=""><div style="color:rgb(135,135,135)" class="">"these points come from some of our best information sources, who realize they'll be attacked ad hominem"</div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-left:20px" class=""></div></div></div></li><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;list-style:none" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-size:14px;padding-top:10px" class=""><div class=""><div style="float:left" class="">2.</div><div style="margin-left:20px" class=""><div style="font-size:small" class=""><div style="display:inline" class="">in a way that relates to or is associated with a particular person.</div><div class=""><div style="color:rgb(135,135,135)" class="">"the office was created ad hominem for Fenton"</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></li></ol></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 2, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Nikhil Desai <<a href="mailto:pienergy2008@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">pienergy2008@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Ron: <br class=""><br class="">I read this when it came out and might have critiqued it on the list or with friends. <br class=""><br class="">I assign, on the scale of 0 to 100, precisely a zero to anything that has Susan Annenberg. The rest don't add anything either. <br class=""><br class="">Academic junk. Please read the primary references and observe some integrity protocol. <br class=""><br class="">Publishing papers for the sake of filling CVs. <br class=""><br class="">N<br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><font face="georgia, serif" class="">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">Nikhil Desai</font></div><div class=""><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small" class="">(US +1) 202 568 5831</span><font face="georgia, serif" class=""><br class=""><i class="">Skype: nikhildesai888</i><br class=""></font><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 6:33 PM Ronal Larson <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank" class="">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">List:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>I don’t recall previously reading (or discussing on this list) this 2013 (non-fee) paper at <a href="https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/es304942e" target="_blank" class="">https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/es304942e</a>.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>Title: <b class=""><u class="">"Cleaner Cooking Solutions to Achieve Health, Climate, and Economic
Cobenefits"</u></b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>Jim Jetter, perhaps my favorite stove expert (head of a big part of the recent ISO exercise) is one of the co-authors. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span> What most interests me are Tables 2 and 3 - which cover ALL three of the title topics - not just health. Note “Cobenefits”. These need not be separate stove topics.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class=""> </span>They are NOT endorsing here what I have been suggesting - funding for char-making stoves to accomplish carbon climate goals. But they are not far from it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron</div></div></div></div>_______________</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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