<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head>
<body>
<style id="outgoing-font-settings">
<!--
#response_container_BBPPID
        {font-family:initial;
        font-size:initial;
        color:initial}
-->
</style>
<meta content="script-src 'self'; img-src * cid: data:; upgrade-insecure-requests;">
<div id="response_container_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="outline:none">
<div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">Dear Kevin </div>
<div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%"><br>
</div>
<div name="BB10" id="BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">Are they left to rot in the fields, because that is fertilizer. </div>
<div name="BB10" id="response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%"><br>
</div>
<div name="BB10" id="response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">Perhaps they are ploughed under. That helps hold moisture. </div>
<div name="BB10" id="response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%"><br>
</div>
<div name="BB10" id="response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">Crispin </div>
</div>
<div id="_original_msg_header_BBPPID" dir="auto">
<table width="100%" style="border-spacing:0px; display:table; outline:none">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" style="padding:initial; font-size:initial; text-align:initial">
<div style="border-right:none; border-bottom:none; border-left:none; border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223); padding:3pt 0in 0in; font-family:Tahoma,"BB Alpha Sans","Slate Pro"; font-size:10pt">
<div id="from"><b>From:</b> info@sun24.solar</div>
<div id="sent"><b>Sent:</b> January 21, 2020 7:14 PM</div>
<div id="to"><b>To:</b> stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</div>
<div id="reply_to"><b>Reply to:</b> stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</div>
<div id="subject"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Char from Corn cobs ??</div>
</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Here is a <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fiaafrica.com%2Fa-day-in-rural-south-africa-photo-essay%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1315d60907354b32fa5608d79ecffc4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637152488431510058&sdata=bZj4Arbgw%2FF9ESk%2FZcyKUhnnISadbmDOucRh6S20Sb8%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://iaafrica.com/a-day-in-rural-south-africa-photo-essay/" shash="R4fiHV1n8Kozu/PQSQBquVa4QrPKN46MNUrVYTzVOBAsnYi/qKrgamUQOEX+dCBzfbMh8sthgnFpNDIduFJwJojLYsGL4itH1CjhKCOpv10UxDoNNx/E9tcq55qpdGFvQrHzS4pvGus2WkzCRAc3CkXQMEXTVuq75SIuB1EP3g0=" target="_blank">
photo essay</a> on South African families collecting and burning maize cobs as cooking fuel.  But I've been emailing off list Abraham Abyslo in Nigeria, a member of this list.  Nobody in his area burns cobs, though maize is grown in abundance.  The cobs are
 left to rot.  It seems to vary by country and area within the country.</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:02 PM Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" target="_blank">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); background-image:initial; line-height:initial">
<div id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_response_container_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="outline:none">
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
Dear Neil</div>
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_BB10_response_div_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
<br>
</div>
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
You have highlighted th the main two attributes: high burn rate due to a high surface to volume area, and a weak structure. </div>
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
<br>
</div>
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
To make a useful fuel outside the (literally) immediate place isn't production it has to be densified unless there is a use for powdered char.  The reason I mentioned the new Ugandan charcoal standard is because it has a requirement for the production of fines
 when bag is dropped. Charred cobs will never pass such a test. </div>
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
<br>
</div>
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
The reason they have the requirement is that the fines do not burn well. At all.  So selling a bag of charcoal briquettes is going to be cheating the customer if it is 10% fines. </div>
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
<br>
</div>
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
Regards </div>
<div name="x_BB10" id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_response_div_spacer_BBPPID" dir="auto" style="width:100%">
Crispin </div>
</div>
<div id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x__original_msg_header_BBPPID" dir="auto">
<table width="100%" style="border-spacing:0px; display:table; outline:none">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td colspan="2" style="padding:initial; font-size:initial; text-align:initial">
<div style="border-right:none; border-bottom:none; border-left:none; border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223); padding:3pt 0in 0in; font-family:Tahoma,"BB Alpha Sans","Slate Pro"; font-size:10pt">
<div id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_from"><b>From:</b>
<a href="mailto:neiltm@uwclub.net" target="_blank">neiltm@uwclub.net</a></div>
<div id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_sent"><b>Sent:</b> January 21, 2020 5:04 PM</div>
<div id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_to"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">
stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a></div>
<div id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_reply_to"><b>Reply to:</b>
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a></div>
<div id="gmail-m_6727457384151168904gmail-m_-3963477732997108839x_subject"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Stoves] Char from Corn cobs ??</div>
</div>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
</div>
</div>
<font size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt">
<div>On 21 Jan 2020 at 8:25, Cookswell Jikos wrote:<br>
<br>
> Corn cob charcoal itself is pretty awesome - it burns super fast and<br>
> hot which makes it good for blending with regular charcoal or quick<br>
> cooking of things like tea or rice. <br>
<br>
I have burned a few and then burned the char, not exclusively but mixed <br>
in with other 'fines' and generally friable char saved from TLUD and <br>
rocket stoves mostly, and I can identify with the above statement when <br>
comparing my home made char with more substantial commercial 'lumpwood' <br>
charcoal.<br>
I also find that wood that has half rotted, but when dry makes a very <br>
friable char, much as the corn cobs do, and does indeed burn super fast <br>
and hot, lighting exteremely quickly, which is also true of the wood <br>
itself in the TLUD.<br>
<br>
With my small cast iron pot bellied BBQ with the addition of my computer <br>
fan 'turbo', I can have a fire to cook on in about a minute from lighting <br>
with a couple of sheets of newspaper under the grate, and with enough <br>
fuel in a single charge, a fire that lasts long enough to cook chicken <br>
pieces - about 40 mins.<br>
<br>
I introduced the fan when I experienced inadequate draft because of the <br>
density of the layer of fine char impeding air flow, but apart from <br>
starting the fire, mostly it is not necessary once going, although <br>
sometimes useful in short bursts as another way to vary the heat, and if <br>
I reload during a long cook.<br>
<br>
I can appreciate though that this type of char might be difficult to <br>
transport and sell without degredation and would presumably need the sort <br>
of charcoal stove that can burn pellet char which I imagine is more <br>
structurally robust but have no experience of.  But used at source I find <br>
it excellent and easy, and makes for a very controllable heat.  <br>
<br>
Neil Taylor in England<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Stoves mailing list<br>
<br>
to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<br>
to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>
<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.bioenergylists.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fstoves_lists.bioenergylists.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1315d60907354b32fa5608d79ecffc4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637152488431510058&sdata=NIWaCbw3iTEJjZ%2B3dMpKQnKb2VFEzPtw9Z9m965b5C0%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org" shash="pY/4a4kg2KbZHEs7pakWwJCfxQBV2PZH2+9JeeOzYyfowpRb6O2ztc9SGs+U5+3iF+tcIKzSVJTmmjh+UydQJeiALtEmU6knfuvFaIJaVgcWzt08jR2iEYH95LDsMMR+N549eUagzszFOtoOQXRXia5elmnwtcIwYyGVtuKRRoU=" target="_blank">https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.bioenergylists.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fstoves_lists.bioenergylists.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc8df906c1cde44418aa008d79ebde4e3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637152410735502711&amp;sdata=oHolk6UM2EzMaAljWt4F0ypupB7fzUjuyyHm%2FxoUw2g%3D&amp;reserved=0</a><br>
<br>
for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:<br>
<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstoves.bioenergylists.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1315d60907354b32fa5608d79ecffc4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637152488431510058&sdata=CuhufrdMhqb8awOaYx4Klz166XDmHg%2FsHulYYnfgXdM%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/" shash="iGOZ4+fjWRnDUtow15LubjrRRIqUNLipXk7U49WByvjdgS2cHZN9Cw+8kgtZUES3Cv2cx0yzXVNo8wJ9m5gOxuTZaG221+0RInUO7O4OJrOnq2yhwUt89ioO6Gv4KY4/nr1+Kb20o7EDbbvLATBmoXL9I/p4UhyS9SzjGefBAs0=" target="_blank">https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstoves.bioenergylists.org%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc8df906c1cde44418aa008d79ebde4e3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637152410735502711&amp;sdata=Cv3ZPE0tWeUXL3aiqEIm2a2tM3ycxiyOacnWHw%2BguX0%3D&amp;reserved=0</a><br>
<br>
</div>
</span></font></div>
_______________________________________________<br>
Stoves mailing list<br>
<br>
to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<br>
to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>
<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.bioenergylists.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fstoves_lists.bioenergylists.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1315d60907354b32fa5608d79ecffc4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637152488431520053&sdata=%2FqIdTYL6RZImmghPGcIIAL9IcBAP9EEJhbUXEa%2Be6n4%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org" shash="I02+epaUhTyqeQnbiQo3CPQGdTLmIVJAiHi0Q2r89E6f+0IHWDbP0zQtr6Xvz3HHNSMv+ePHU776C+55K/gNyA3fx2o+HBPAWgMndYnU8bs0kSRrz9dynCKsGwn2/CxEZRJPSFfD5VcMyMTG/vpr47R098bcbYCq0fcKNL3ox/g=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<br>
for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:<br>
<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstoves.bioenergylists.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1315d60907354b32fa5608d79ecffc4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637152488431520053&sdata=mgci0%2BKdd4470i0viahNV4ux08un8bHfHeD3iiKMaNY%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/" shash="xQOlOjAEBLL6He4lG9KewMIDU8BpOu9KRDX5jL/qc5+x5m+R0Cn+LP8feJUob2J8QwmqxLHzuzZJqcpks63AIpaOIwXsrc5/Q6MGf+Y1uYgP3L86lIVv2aH3hnuGj1cfHP+2ORQLrdc3WVUdnsfT/Nw5uG5B1vLjUbhQHBJlMDQ=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>