<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Robert and list<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">  </span>See inserts.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 26, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Robert Taylor <<a href="mailto:rt@ms1.hinet.net" class="">rt@ms1.hinet.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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  <div class=""><p class="">Doesn't all the heat used for cooking go into the living space
      anyway (aside from any that gets stored chemically by the cooking
      process)?</p><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">  </span><b class="">[RWL:  Yup.</b></div><p class="">No doubt the difference is relevant for calculating the
      performance of individual parts of the system, but does it make
      any practical difference overall, if cooking is always done when
      there is also a need for space heating?</p><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><b class="">[RWL:  I was just trying to get a sense of the cooking efficiency numbers.  The stove is sold with or without the cook stove option.</b></div><p class="">But if the stove is ever used for cooking when there is no need
      for space heating, wouldn't the inefficiency arising from that
      fact alone far outweigh the inefficiencies in the "cooking" part
      of the system?</p><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span><b class="">[RWL:  Sorry.  I don’t know enough about the stove’s use.   Use for cooking in the winter looks fine.</b></div><p class="">Similar to what happens when you add a USB electric output to a
      cooking stove, if people then start running the stove purely to
      charge their devices.</p><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span><b class="">[RWL:  Shouldn’t be much of a problem as there should be at least 2-3 times a day use for cooking.  I think solar chargers probably have sewn up that market.</b></div><p class="">Robert Taylor  <br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27-May-20 3:30 AM, Ronal Larson
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                          controllable flame, very much better
                          combustion efficiency, higher temperatures and
                          better CO combustion. The fuel saving is large
                          - maybe 50%. The KG2.5 is about 88+90%
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                heating efficiency.  Cooking comes before the heat
                exchanger so whatever the cooking efficiency is (depends
                on the power setting) that is subtracted from the space
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      <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">             </span><b class="">[RWL:  Surprising that no-one is measuring the
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