<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp204ddde9yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family: lucida console, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hi Crispin,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The Biolite isn't very good.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">If i remember correctly,Aprovecho<span> has an 18 watt <b>T</b>hermo-<b>E</b>lectric <b>G</b>enerator.</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Surely $100 is a lot of money in Uganda, it would be better to make a stove with</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>a TEG themselves or pay a handyman to make one. It could be a good business.</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>The problem of over-use and waste is encountered with many devices e.g.</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Earth ( Telluric ) Batteries, Solar Energy Devices ( passive and active ), Wind <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Generators ( especially the really good devices ), Mechanical 2-Stage <br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span>Oscillator etc.<br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div>It could be disastrous if mankind has "unlimited" energy, even "clean" energy,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">at it's disposal.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">By the way did the MONOTHERMAL GENERATOR & RESISTIVE PAINTS / COATINGS</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div>company contact you?</div><div><span style="font-size:16px;color:#0038A8;font-weight:bold;"><br></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><span style="font-size:16px;color:#0038A8;font-weight:bold;"> Lovell Patented Technology .... <br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:16px;color:#0038A8;font-weight:bold;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:16px;color:#0038A8;font-weight:bold;"><a href="http://www.lovellpatentedtechnology.com/index.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">http://www.lovellpatentedtechnology.com/index.html</a></span></div><div><br></div>
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that converts temperature differences into electrical energy -- <a id="ydpfc9f36a4yiv9998998032yui_3_16_0_1_1440528624210_17630" class="ydpfc9f36a4yiv9998998032" href="http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-seebeck-effect.htm" title="WiseGeek" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Seebeck Effect</a>, <a id="ydpfc9f36a4yiv9998998032yui_3_16_0_1_1440528624210_17631" class="ydpfc9f36a4yiv9998998032" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_effect" title="Thermoelectric Effect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Thomson Effect</a>, etc.) and <em id="ydpfc9f36a4yiv9998998032yui_3_16_0_1_1440528624210_17632" class="ydpfc9f36a4yiv9998998032">without</em> requiring a chemical reaction (i.e. a redox reaction in batteries). </div>The
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                    On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 4:56:23 PM GMT+1, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <crispinpigott@outlook.com> wrote:
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<div id="ydp336edee9yiv4611228496BB10_response_div_BBPPID" style="width:100%;">I hear people are buying a Biolite stove in Uganda for $100 and running it all day to play the radio. </div>

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 of light and growth. None of this is true in industrial wood plantations, which support little or no plant and animal life, and which have longer rotation cycles (of at least twenty years).</span></i><br clear="none">
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<h2>How is Cutting Down Trees Sustainable?</h2>
<p>Advocating for the use of biomass as a renewable source of energy – replacing fossil fuels – has become controversial among environmentalists. The comments on the previous article,
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which discussed thermoelectric stoves</a>, illustrate this:</p>
<ul><li>“As the recent film Planet of the Humans points out, biomass a.k.a. dead trees is not a renewable resource by any means, even though the
<span class="ydp336edee9yiv4611228496ydp5ac34854yiv0235302255ydpd7c84f2ayiv6194268105ydpb4c9cde0caps">EU</span> classifies it as such.”</li><li>“How is cutting down trees sustainable?”</li><li>“Article fails to mention that a wood stove produces more <span class="ydp336edee9yiv4611228496ydp5ac34854yiv0235302255ydpd7c84f2ayiv6194268105ydpb4c9cde0caps">
CO2</span> than a coal power plant for every ton of wood/coal that is burned.”</li><li>“This is pure insanity. Burning trees to reduce our carbon footprint is oxymoronic.”</li><li>“The carbon footprint alone is just horrifying.”</li><li>“The biggest problem with burning anything is once it’s burned, it’s gone forever.”</li><li>“The only silly question I can add to to the silliness of this piece, is where is all the wood coming from?”</li></ul>
<p>In contrast to what the comments suggest, the article does not advocate the expansion of biomass as an energy source. Instead, it argues that already burning biomass fires – used by roughly 40% of today’s global population – could also produce electricity
 as a by-product, if they are outfitted with thermoelectric modules. Nevertheless, several commenters maintained their criticism after they read the article more carefully. One of them wrote: “We should aim to eliminate the burning of biomass globally, not
 make it more attractive.”</p>
<i><b>Apparently, high-tech thinking has permeated the minds of (urban) environmentalists to such an extent that they view biomass as an inherently troublesome energy source – similar to fossil fuels. To be clear, critics are right to call out unsustainable
 practices in biomass production. However, these are the consequences of a relatively recent, “industrial” approach to forestry. When we look at historical forest management practices, it becomes clear that biomass is potentially one of the most sustainable
 energy sources on this planet.</b></i></div>
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