<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">One reason to publish the first edition of the micro-gasification manual by GIZ-HERA in 2011 was to prove ‚prior art‘ and document it in the public domain <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjGuMa7icPtAhUYUBUIHQwVBB8QFjABegQIARAC&url=https://energypedia.info/images/f/f6/Micro_Gasification_Cooking_with_gas_from_biomass.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3aALBFjQvj7Q3Zpjzw4iR_" class="">https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjGuMa7icPtAhUYUBUIHQwVBB8QFjABegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fenergypedia.info%2Fimages%2Ff%2Ff6%2FMicro_Gasification_Cooking_with_gas_from_biomass.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3aALBFjQvj7Q3Zpjzw4iR_</a><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">That applies to patents claimed after 2011, but some technologies in the manual are documented to have originated well before 2006 </div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><div class="">Am 09.12.2020 um 20:00 schrieb Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" class="">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Dear Julien<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Thanks you for this heads up. Very interesting.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">First, having a patent doesn’t mean much – it is a license to sue and prevent competition or collect royalties. In short, a patent can exist and not be valid. To validate it, in most jurisdictions, means having a USA court agree, which costs US$180,000. They will check for “prior art”<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Demonstrating “prior art” is relatively easy if it exists. A patent is only valid if it is issued to the original inventor and includes a “novel step”. If the claimed novel steps (or combinations) are copied from the public domain it is not valid. Sometimes the 20<sup class="">th</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>or 25<sup class="">th</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>claim on the patent is valid but is so narrow that it only applies to an extremely small sub-set of virtually identical products, and the patent holder has to prove that you are making that particular implementation.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">If a producer in China was sued based on a Chinese patent, it might be upheld because the defendant could not find prior art in the public domain. Threat of a suit can be used to intimidate small producers. It is best resisted by sending them info on prior art.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">You can place something in the public domain by making and selling one (1) to a member of the public. Prove that, and prior art is proven. It is by<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">far</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>not the only way. But it is effective.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Crispin<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">Crispin Pemberton-Pigott<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="text-decoration: none;" class="">crispinpigott@outlook.com</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: white;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Subject:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Stoves] Worldwide Chinese TLUD Patents<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi All;<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">For our general information, attached is a list of Chinese patents taken out on TLUD stoves. These patents were taken out Worldwide.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">CN101430102A 2008 <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatents.google.com%2Fpatent%2FCN101430102A%2Fen&data=04%7C01%7C%7C19dc76210f19443a0d8f08d89c622300%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637431292586458747%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=vlbKBuOtzepoM6TThp9EPdM8UGG3yrw8NHoUmivhMsE%3D&reserved=0" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">CN101430102A - Biomass shaping fuel-combustion countryside cooking/bathing/heating integrated apparatus - Google Patents</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">CN201014515Y 2006 <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatents.google.com%2Fpatent%2FCN201014515Y%2Fen%3Foq%3DCN201014515Y&data=04%7C01%7C%7C19dc76210f19443a0d8f08d89c622300%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637431292586458747%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MbkadVg1znzKNzAdXNOhzxfR0xxqRSl5MqLk8GYnhbQ%3D&reserved=0" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">CN201014515Y - Hollow ring container multi-order air feed high class biomass cooking furnace - Google Patents</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">CN101430102B 2008 <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatents.google.com%2Fpatent%2FCN101430102B%2Fen%3Foq%3DCN101430102B&data=04%7C01%7C%7C19dc76210f19443a0d8f08d89c622300%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637431292586468742%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WrYPcBjTNfJt4ukv99bY5jEfzpD%2FhMt3n1KpGY8QEUw%3D&reserved=0" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">CN101430102B - Biomass shaping fuel-combustion countryside cooking/bathing/heating integrated apparatus - Google Patents</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">CN104006413A 2014 <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatents.google.com%2Fpatent%2FCN104006413A%2Fen%3Foq%3DCN104006413A&data=04%7C01%7C%7C19dc76210f19443a0d8f08d89c622300%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637431292586468742%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=SiJH1mVGstzPvNe%2FyfBu0tbf0rYUaqv4aWG4IFHHG%2Bg%3D&reserved=0" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">CN104006413A - Biomass cooking stove based on TLUD gasification principle and thermoelectric power generation technology - Google Patents</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">CN203549916U 2013 <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatents.google.com%2Fpatent%2FCN203549916U%2Fen%3Foq%3DCN203549916U&data=04%7C01%7C%7C19dc76210f19443a0d8f08d89c622300%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637431292586468742%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=EdK%2FnihkoIzKjhKX5fqq1X4KFZLxzWcKZznOpxHoIgM%3D&reserved=0" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">CN203549916U - Strengthened-discharging-type cooking stove - Google Patents</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To get the illustrations for these patents, you have to download the respective pdf files that are in Chinese.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Just out of curiosity, how did the TLUD technology develop in China? Did Tom Reed, Paul Anderson, Crispin Pemberton-Piggot or Aprovecho lend a hand.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">These patents are an example of why we should patent our stoves, even when developed as open access technology. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Are YouTube videos an economical and effective way of establishing the Worldwide precedence of an open access technology?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cheers,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Julien<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Julien Winter<br class="">Cobourg, ON, CANADA<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; 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