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<p class="MsoNormal">Debbie,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For fallen branches, the RoCC Kiln would be easier and go all the way to biochar without intermediate steps of chipping, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Further development of the RoCC X-Frame barrel  size being done today and tomorrow.   I will be putting the units to work  to evaluate them with various feedstocks.  
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website:   <a href="http://www.drtlud.com/">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.drtlud.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">         Email:  <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">psanders@ilstu.edu</span></a>       Skype:   paultlud<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">         Phone:  Office: 309-452-7072    Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP    Go to: <a href="http://www.juntosnfp.org/">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.JuntosNFP.org</span></a>  <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Inventor of RoCC kilns and author of Biochar white paper :  See 
<a href="http://www.woodgas.energy/resources"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.woodgas.energy/resources</span></a>  
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<p class="MsoNormal">Author of “<i>A Capitalist Carol</i>” (free digital copies at
<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org/"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.capitalism21.org</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">         with pages 88 – 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> main@Biochar.groups.io <main@Biochar.groups.io>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah Cook via groups.io<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 13, 2021 9:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> main@biochar.groups.io<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org>; Jock Gill <jock@jockgill.com>; Biochar@groups.io<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Biochar] [Stoves] Video of the Fabstove<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#EB0000">[This message came from an external source. If suspicious, report to
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm wondering about the wood pellets, and the energy required to make them and then transport them. I'm thinking of getting an
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electric woodchipper</a> and making my own feedstock from the incredible amount of fallen trees in the woods nearby. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:12 PM Ron Larson <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Good question.  I’m anxious to hear other answers.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">In general, we want secondary air as close to the hot produced char as possible.  Starting with a partial fuel load works against that general principal.    I think I have found a waay to have the secondary
 air follow the falling char.  Will try to get that out soon.  Never been tested.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Anyone else “solved" that problem?  Using a fan/blower excepted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Kevin Mclean has told me of cooks running their stove (not a TLUD, but could have been) just for the char.  I like that solution also.  Lots of 55 gallon barrels running that way<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On May 11, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jock Gill <<a href="mailto:jock@jockgill.com" target="_blank">jock@jockgill.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Can you use less than two pounds of pellets and get good results?  Or is it possible to boil water and then stop the pyrolysis to save fuel for the next run? There are many
 times when I would  not want a one hour fire.  The ability to start and stop and then restart  the fuel load would be useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Pixel 3: (802) 503-1258<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Fabstove is a forced-air FA-TLUD pyrolytic stove.   It cooks with the pyrolytic gases while leaving behind valuable charcoal.  <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">An introductory video is at:   <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is available in North America from    <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blueskybiochar.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca377c98a97074f33c9cc08d9161885f2%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637565116859870958%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=cBLF6rV64IyTyB6Jj0MZflrSG1qHMEGJw8R5aDzvjVU%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.blueskybiochar.com</span></a>    <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website:   <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drtlud.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca377c98a97074f33c9cc08d9161885f2%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637565116859880916%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=om8dW6Or9gGh4KY0Ec8aecEo4CWNwf7gI9hiNI%2FcOrs%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.drtlud.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">         Email:  <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">psanders@ilstu.edu</span></a>       Skype:   paultlud<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">         Phone:  Office: 309-452-7072    Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP    Go to: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.juntosnfp.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca377c98a97074f33c9cc08d9161885f2%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637565116859880916%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=1%2FXXGXx25V2eoXEDWykS%2FkwxnuKS8H1WnBN4WQHmT%2Bs%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.JuntosNFP.org</span></a>  <o:p></o:p></p>
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