<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Pramod and list: cc Kevin; can’t see how to cc Frans<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>1. Very glad to hear of IIT's BID4D Lab group. I hope you will keep this list informed. on all parts of this study.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>After writing a quick reply, (redone below) I found your 2015 non-fee article: A CAPABILITY APPROACH BASED STAKEHOLDER
ANALYSIS FOR THE BASE OF THE PYRAMID: A CASE
STUDY OF THE FIREWOOD BASED COOK-STOVES. The way I downloaded through Google Scholar gives URL that won’t be helpful to others.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I urge all on this list to at least skim this and realize we have a chance to have some real stove progress through Professor Khadikar. There is a also a short bio at: </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://design.iitd.ac.in/pramod-khadilkar.html" class="">https://design.iitd.ac.in/pramod-khadilkar.html</a>, </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">where the above article is listed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>2. I hope you can expand your list of 6 criteria to include whether the stove makes char or not. This roughly equivalent to whether the stove owner <b class=""><u class="">makes or spends </u></b>time and money. Maybe 4 stoves under test would be better than 2. In general, char-making stoves don’t get much attention from stove researchers - but climate and CDR issues may have changed that - given the COP-26 meeting coming up.in just a few weeks.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>3. Your 2nd criterion beiow (ag residues) is good to see. Kevin’s response re a stove with a hole and using 3 stones has a metal counterpart - also called an AgWa at a cost of a few US $ might or could also be considered. Both are running successfully on ag residues . Which seems difficult for Rockets? Definitely portable, but presumably anything portable can also substitute for fixed - while the converse is not true. How would you consider a hole-in-the ground stove for portability? </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>4. I am a little surprised at your phrase: “dissemination…… at a University”. Explanation? </div><div class="">``<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The above 2015 paper I thought was remarkable because you focussed on “Bottom of the Pyramid”. Maybe not true for this new study? (and Kevin’s work is for that population.)</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> If you are looking at marketability to middle class families - you probably will need to restrict yourself to commercial TLUDs and Anilas. There are plenty available - and both made in India.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>5. What Frans has described can be built with other types of scrap cans. including scrap cans called #10 in the US. Thrown away widely in the US; only rarely in Africa. India?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>6. Any expectation on the desired time-length and power levels per batch forthisUniversity audience? Or has it been predetermined that batch operation will not be acceptable? There are ways to combine TLUDs and/or Anilas with Rockets - but I am not aware of any on the market (anywhere). You obviously have the background and skills to make this advance.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best of luck and thanks for coming to this list..</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ron</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 12, 2021, at 12:43 AM, pramod khadilkar <<a href="mailto:pramod.khadilkar@gmail.com" class="">pramod.khadilkar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear List members, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For a research project involving dissemination of cook stoves at a university in India, I want to find options of - </div><div class="">1) Open source portable cook stove designs (That could be disseminated without violating any royalties or without technology transfer)</div><div class="">2) That run on biomass (Indian agricultural residues)</div><div class="">3) Need to be Portable</div><div class="">4) Using only natural draft (No external power source required)</div><div class="">5) Technical details must be available </div><div class="">6) preferably tested in field or lab for performance</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I work in a design department at IIT Delhi and I work for a lab Behaviour Informed Design for Development Lab (BID4D). The aim is not to design a new cookstove but to understand the behavioural aspects related to different options of cookstoves. I am selecting 1 portable and 1 fixed stove and wish to understand how the acceptance of improved cookstoves changes and what are the behavioural responses. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Any repository of such design or suggestions for individual designs for the same would be greatly appreciated. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards, </div><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><b class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">Pramod Khadilkar</font></b><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1" class="">Visiting Faculty (Full time) </font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1" class="">Department of Design </font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1" class="">Indian Institute of Technology Delhi </font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1" class="">India</font></div><div class=""><span style="" class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1" class=""><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pramod-khadilkar-99025921" target="_blank" class="">https://www.linkedin.com/in/pramod-khadilkar-99025921</a></font></span><br class=""></div></div></div></div>
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