<div dir="auto">Kirk,  <div dir="auto">I follow what you are doing with your innovative combuster designs for gassifiers. This is an area of development that we have been ignoring for too long.  The closest thing to what you are describing as the way you want to go with your innovations in the future is being done by Phoenix Energy.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://biochar-international.org/phoenix_energy/&ved=2ahUKEwjgh4GT8-jzAhVLlmoFHbtJC_sQFnoECDkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2W7AQdpHW5rSk6eMmAjyzG" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://biochar-international.org/phoenix_energy/&ved=2ahUKEwjgh4GT8-jzAhVLlmoFHbtJC_sQFnoECDkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2W7AQdpHW5rSk6eMmAjyzG</a></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 26, 2021, 1:41 PM Kirk Harris <<a href="mailto:gkharris316@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gkharris316@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>All,</p>
    <p>Sorry about the first email.  I intended to hit delete but
      accidentally hit send.</p>
    <p>Kirk H.<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 10/26/2021 12:04 PM, Kirk Harris
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      <p>All,</p>
      <p>Some very constructive comments so far.  I am very fortunate. 
        Thank you!</p>
      <p>Ron, very constructive indeed, thank you.  I would like to see
        the work by Alex English.  He has impressed me in the past.  You
        give some valid warnings and options.<br>
      </p>
      <p>Paul, some good insights and cautions.  Both you and Ron
        suggest reaching out to professionals in the appropriate fields,
        which is an excellent thought.  Advice from experts in vibrating
        tables would be included. <br>
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      <p>Frank, thank you for the information and a differing point of
        view.  I looked at the diagrams you sent.  It appears to me that
        the involved company, Syncraft, views the charcoal as a fuel (as
        is the case with most biomass to electricity designs) and mostly
        burns it.  The saved charcoal appears to be what the system
        failed to burn.  What I am looking for is a system where
        electricity and charcoal are held as equal value products.  The
        Syncraft system goes through a complex system of filtering and
        cooling, so the heat energy does not go into the electricity,
        only some of the chemical energy.  The burner I presented is
        very efficient for burning wood gas, and produces very little in
        the way of particulates.  The heat of pyrolysis and wood gas
        combustion go straight into the steam, and modern boilers and
        steam turbines are very efficient.  The Syncraft system is a
        legitimate system for what it is, but it is a different concept
        then what I was looking for.  I don't consider my efforts to be
        solely American, but rather to put forward something that can
        help mitigate climate change and wild fires world wide, and to
        replace some amount of fossil fuels.</p>
      <p>Frans, language differences makes it difficult for me to
        understand what you have written.  Your thought that a biomass
        system will return CO2 to the atmosphere does make biomass
        systems more difficult to promote.   Good point!  The fact that
        half the carbon in the fuel is saved for sequestration doesn't
        seem to make a difference to some.  I would like to see your
        pyrolyser design.</p>
      <p> Crispin,  it is good to know that Alex advanced so far.  Such
        a system can work!  That is good to know.  Do you know anything
        of the quality of the char?  With the focus today on climate
        change, and the damage fossil fuels are doing, perhaps such a
        system should be revisited.</p>
      <p>Thank you all for such productive responses,<br>
      </p>
      <p>Kirk H.<br>
      </p>
      <div>On 10/24/2021 9:28 PM, Ron Larson
        wrote:<br>
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        <span style="font-size:14px">Kirk and stoves list.  2
          ccs</span>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">     </span>Constructive
            (?) comments:</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">     </span>1.
             I suggest that your ideas have merit and should be pursued.
             I see nothing wrong with your diagram.  </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap">           </span><span style="font-size:14px"> 15 or more years ago, on
            the stoves list, Alex English modified
            an existing commercial unit somewhat like your design -
            mainly by speeding  up the moving biomass.  I believe
            considered successful</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">     </span>2.
             But I believe yours  is too large a jump up for any single
            person to accomplish without big money behind them.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">             </span>Three
            solutions:</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">                     </span>a.
             Make a sales pitch to work with companies already doing
            something similar - I think there may be more that 20 in the
            US alone, with a thermal output focus.  The competition
            against PV, wind and batteries is likely too tough in this
            size range.. </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">                     </span>b.
             Pick a smaller size final need and apparatus, where there
            is little going on.  In this case continuous (non-batch)
            charcoal-making heating stoves.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">                     </span>c.
             Maybe focus on a do-it-yourself audience - willing to use
            horizontal 200 liter drums.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">     </span>3.
              I’d focus on wood chips - as being much cheaper and more
            readily available than pellets.  Large pieces of wood don’t
            look at all amenable to what you are proposing.  I don’t see
            much happening with chips for combined char-making and
            heating.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">     </span>4.
             Conceivable that such a stove user could make money while
            heating.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px">Constructive?</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:14px"> Ron</span></div>
        <div><br>
          <div><br>
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              <div>On Oct 24, 2021, at 8:08 PM, Kirk Harris
                <<a href="mailto:gkharris316@comcast.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">gkharris316@comcast.net</a>>
                wrote:</div>
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                <div>All,<br>
                  <br>
                  For several years I have been working on an efficient
                  burner for wood gas from a TLUD wood stove.  The
                  burner is well along, and is very efficient.  Now my
                  attention has turned to producing wood gas and char on
                  a larger scale for a carbon negative (relating to the
                  atmosphere) electrical power plant.  Attached are
                  documents which describe where the idea is going.  The
                  pyrolyzer is a brainstorming idea.  The bluff body
                  burner is quite well developed.<br>
                  <br>
                  Constructive comments are welcome,<br>
                  <br>
                  Kirk H.<br>
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