<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Stoves@bioenergylists.org<br><br><div dir="ltr">T R Miles Technical Consultants Inc.<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">tmiles@trmiles.com</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.226562); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.226562);">Sent from mobile. </span></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:33 PM, Anderson, Paul <psanders@ilstu.edu> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Which of the two list names is correct? And are both of them sending messages? I am receiving only a single copy of these messages. Are others receiving a copy from each named list?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We do not yet know if anyone is receiving these messages. And maybe duplicate messages. Please acknowledge.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Apologies to all while we try to get the Stove list functional for me and, we hope, for you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com/">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.drtlud.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">psanders@ilstu.edu</span></a> Skype: paultlud<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP Go to: <a href="http://www.juntosnfp.org/">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.JuntosNFP.org</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Inventor of RoCC kilns and author of Biochar white paper : See
<a href="http://www.woodgas.energy/resources"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.woodgas.energy/resources</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Author of “<i>A Capitalist Carol</i>” (free digital copies at
<a href="http://www.capitalism21.org/"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.capitalism21.org</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> with pages 88 – 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> tmiles@trmiles.com <tmiles@trmiles.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 9:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anderson, Paul <psanders@ilstu.edu>; 'Patricia Mcardle' <solarwind1@me.com>; stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org; stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: SPAM: ***SPAM*** RE: Is the Stoves list functioning again? RE: New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your messages appear in the archive. You should be receiving from the list. I found that Patricia was not currently registered, so I restored her subscription.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stoves <<a href="mailto:mailman-bounces@bio.bioenergylists.org">mailman-bounces@bio.bioenergylists.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anderson, Paul<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 7:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>; 'Patricia Mcardle' <<a href="mailto:solarwind1@me.com">solarwind1@me.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> SPAM: ***SPAM*** RE: Is the Stoves list functioning again? RE: New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I could post, but I could not receive. The message from Patricia and now the one from you are the first incoming messages to reach me.
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<p class="MsoNormal">As Patrica just now wrote, she decided to send to the TWO addresses. Which one is reaching me, I do not know. Because it is a receiving problem for me, could you a test message A and B version via the two addresses? Then I can let
you know what is reaching me now. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We would like to hear from some others about what they are receiving (or not).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to see the Stoves discussion group be with the same service that the Biochar group has, if that is reasonable.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drtlud.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=g7rw1KjDbFzqwweMTM1NDZuAr3mKNJUzfb2g%2FY4lq7g%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.drtlud.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">psanders@ilstu.edu</span></a> Skype: paultlud<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP Go to: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.juntosnfp.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ecq7lJssKBlPFdPCbHi0lagE2tZ%2FwOr1uHX%2BaNnNWqs%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.JuntosNFP.org</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Inventor of RoCC kilns and author of Biochar white paper : See
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woodgas.energy%2Fresources&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=VUXZgq4Muqq1faKaFCUNwtrLc%2BRh93NZr1yFHcqZN4E%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.woodgas.energy/resources</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Author of “<i>A Capitalist Carol</i>” (free digital copies at
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capitalism21.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=r4AbJcHhf2nyRdMshB2txByLHG3ELxAf0SKQshTOphY%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.capitalism21.org</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> with pages 88 – 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a> <<a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 9:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>; 'Patricia Mcardle' <<a href="mailto:solarwind1@me.com">solarwind1@me.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Is the Stoves list functioning again? RE: New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The stoves list is still active with 943 subscribers. We don’t know how many are “live”. Only a few have posted in recent months including Andrew, Crispin, Ron, Kevin, Rogerio, Stephen Joseph etc. Some, like Chalrie, have just been quiet.
You posted in October and December 2021. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have considered migrating the list to the Groups.io server where we host Biochar which we migrated from Yahoo. . There are advantages, including a smart phone app, but we would like to preserve the archives and we don’t know if that
is possible yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stoves <<a href="mailto:mailman-bounces@bio.bioenergylists.org">mailman-bounces@bio.bioenergylists.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anderson, Paul<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 5:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Patricia Mcardle <<a href="mailto:solarwind1@me.com">solarwind1@me.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Is the Stoves list functioning again? RE: New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Patricia and ALL,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am in favor of Retained Heat Cookers. But I write here about the STOVES LIST SERVE. This is the FIRST message I have received in over 2 years. Why did it come through? (Note that Patricia sent to TWO addresses, and we do not
know yet which one worked.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now we will see if MY message reaches anyone? Kirk, Dean, Tom, Christa, Ron, Crispin, Dave, and all the others. Please reply so I / we know what has reached you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would love to seen the Stove listserv functional again!!!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drtlud.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=g7rw1KjDbFzqwweMTM1NDZuAr3mKNJUzfb2g%2FY4lq7g%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.drtlud.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">psanders@ilstu.edu</span></a> Skype: paultlud<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP Go to: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.juntosnfp.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ecq7lJssKBlPFdPCbHi0lagE2tZ%2FwOr1uHX%2BaNnNWqs%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.JuntosNFP.org</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Inventor of RoCC kilns and author of Biochar white paper : See
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woodgas.energy%2Fresources&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=VUXZgq4Muqq1faKaFCUNwtrLc%2BRh93NZr1yFHcqZN4E%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.woodgas.energy/resources</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Author of “<i>A Capitalist Carol</i>” (free digital copies at
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capitalism21.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=r4AbJcHhf2nyRdMshB2txByLHG3ELxAf0SKQshTOphY%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.capitalism21.org</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> with pages 88 – 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Patricia Mcardle <<a href="mailto:solarwind1@me.com">solarwind1@me.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You are invited to watch <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzHdO_HaSqtQ&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=av6WHsIu4XvXQU1RQlMg1KNwASxiGrb8wzMPKFckjkI%3D&reserved=0">my
latest You Tube video</a> (<i>10 minutes</i>) which explains how to reduce cooking time and save significant amounts of fuel by using a home-made retained heat basket to finish cooking pots of food that have been brought to a rolling boil for twenty minutes
over a fire. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">In this video, I've included a photo of the late, great Larry Winiarski teaching a group of Mexican women how to make retained heat baskets. I took that photo in 2008 when Larry and I were
in Mexico together on a Rotary project. During that trip, I filmed my very first and still most popular </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXSMR2ANIZ7E&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TeYPtoGz3RiRguLfdioiMW16ADRE6oysY%2BOqAFz%2F9aM%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">You
Tube video</span></a><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">. It shows Larry teaching the women how to make a 16-brick rocket stove. The last time I checked <span style="color:black;background:#F9F9F9">725,572 people had watched that video. </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif;color:black;background:#F9F9F9">I hope you’ll share both videos with your colleagues.</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Back in 2001, Dean Still<span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif"> inspired me with something he posted on the stovers’ list serve: “<span style="color:black;background:white">In a perfect world, perhaps with a great, non-polluting
wood stove, would come a retained heat cooker (Haybox), a solar oven for baking and a parabolic or conical reflector for boiling water...Whole package might cost $100 which is dinner and a movie for some folks.</span>” </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">A few years ago, a crusty old U.S. Marine friend of mine in California, made a similar point about "</span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.appropedia.org%2FIntegrated_cooking&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=uo6TxrxFqh9pFcz0CQl5ePzpvzl9wZjijexVW%2BXvxQY%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">integrated
cooking</span></a><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">" with a slightly different twist: "If you give my neighbor a pile of wood and a fuel efficient biomass stove—and, you give me the same amount of wood and the same biomass stove, but I also
have a solar cooker and a retained heat container, guess who'll run out of wood first?” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">An integrated cooking system is certainly more sustainable for the rural poor than the subsidized LPG that the late</span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVMJcx47hsPc&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=DR5QUFgX9fBK1wneVo0wba83tEFcsqONQITUjQK4Kto%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif"> Kirk Smith
aggressively promoted</span></a><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif"> with his mantra to “make the clean (<i>LPG</i>) available instead of "making the available (<i>wood</i>) clean”. It’s disheartening to see the former GACC (now the </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcleancooking.org%2Freports-and-tools%2Fscaling-lpg-for-cooking-in-developing-markets%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=MNXfNZRNLZjV%2FYc0%2FBlB4%2BqKvavypHf7t3UhnNJi9Kw%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">CCA)
aggressively promoting LPG</span></a><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif"> in the developing world, but I guess that’s where the money is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">I remember back in January 2011, at the DOE-sponsored Biomass Stoves Technical meeting many of us attended, when I was asked by Sam Baldwin to refrain from even mentioning the words "solar
cooking" during the two-day meeting. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">I complied with his request, but when one of the speakers proposed adding a ’simmer’ function to the stoves, I raised my hand and suggested that it might be more cost effective to teach
people how to make and use retained heat baskets rather than trying to engineer a ’simmer’ function that would eventually break. My suggestion was also shot down. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsolarcooking.fandom.com%2Fwiki%2FPatricia_McArdle&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=x6m%2BOFw5c4yJ0S88YSNBZggYarEzkZWPpRq%2F1k2lDXY%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Patricia
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif;color:black">Author, </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.npr.org%2F2011%2F06%2F04%2F136928898%2Ffarishta-afghan-fiction-from-the-foreign-service&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=6sqLd74xyY7n8G%2BGpm9gPADqrP4X06gpqaBHoGEshOs%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif">Farishta</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif;color:black">,
a novel about Afghanistan<br>
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energy<br>
Member Global Advisory Council, </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.solarcookers.org%2Fabout%2Fteam%2Fsci-global-advisor-council%2Fpatricia-mcardle&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbef6a86237b44a93139308d9f5b6c6e1%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637810988119675413%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=bl2IzCiUThTDbzeZBlSmgeXvKeO4AzCqWK2u%2FV77XcA%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif">Solar Cookers
International</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif;color:black"><br>
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Household Energy</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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