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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>[PSA>>] </i></b>Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>I have received ONE message from you (below). But did you send it from both addresses that are listed in Cc:?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>Paul (heading to bed now)<o:p></o:p></i></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tom Miles <<a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 11:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: : Is the Stoves list functioning again? RE: New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">T R Miles Technical Consultants Inc. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span">Sent from mobile. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:33 PM, Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Which of the two list names is correct? And are both of them sending messages? I am receiving only a single copy of these messages. Are others receiving a copy from each named list?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We do not yet know if anyone is receiving these messages. And maybe duplicate messages. Please acknowledge.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Apologies to all while we try to get the Stove list functional for me and, we hope, for you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drtlud.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095251690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=l6zuVEETq3gO3ZU%2B%2BpdRam6h6UHW1aMgbzEKHZsdC24%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.drtlud.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">psanders@ilstu.edu</span></a> Skype: paultlud<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP Go to: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.juntosnfp.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095251690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=jDbeX7UYs6ZZHsXNHIj027dobs56ZiYE%2BMlU79vW3ho%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.JuntosNFP.org</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Inventor of RoCC kilns and author of Biochar white paper : See
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woodgas.energy%2Fresources&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095251690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=nQFcDojr809JhSS%2FPmsd3%2Bk3ZHcktOo68n17vRAv4Ys%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.woodgas.energy/resources</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Author of “<i>A Capitalist Carol</i>” (free digital copies at
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capitalism21.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095251690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Qtm7fugA3ImLt69ndI%2BFQJgelJiWFaMBhpmdUgC5Tho%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.capitalism21.org</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> with pages 88 – 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a> <<a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 9:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>; 'Patricia Mcardle' <<a href="mailto:solarwind1@me.com">solarwind1@me.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: SPAM: ***SPAM*** RE: Is the Stoves list functioning again? RE: New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Your messages appear in the archive. You should be receiving from the list. I found that Patricia was not currently registered, so I restored her subscription.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stoves <<a href="mailto:mailman-bounces@bio.bioenergylists.org">mailman-bounces@bio.bioenergylists.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anderson, Paul<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 7:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>; 'Patricia Mcardle' <<a href="mailto:solarwind1@me.com">solarwind1@me.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> SPAM: ***SPAM*** RE: Is the Stoves list functioning again? RE: New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I could post, but I could not receive. The message from Patricia and now the one from you are the first incoming messages to reach me.
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<p class="MsoNormal">As Patrica just now wrote, she decided to send to the TWO addresses. Which one is reaching me, I do not know. Because it is a receiving problem for me, could you a test message A and B version via the two addresses? Then I can let
you know what is reaching me now. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We would like to hear from some others about what they are receiving (or not).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to see the Stoves discussion group be with the same service that the Biochar group has, if that is reasonable.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD --- Website: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drtlud.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095251690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=l6zuVEETq3gO3ZU%2B%2BpdRam6h6UHW1aMgbzEKHZsdC24%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.drtlud.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">psanders@ilstu.edu</span></a> Skype: paultlud<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Phone: Office: 309-452-7072 Mobile & WhatsApp: 309-531-4434<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP Go to: <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.juntosnfp.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095251690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=jDbeX7UYs6ZZHsXNHIj027dobs56ZiYE%2BMlU79vW3ho%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.JuntosNFP.org</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Inventor of RoCC kilns and author of Biochar white paper : See
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woodgas.energy%2Fresources&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095251690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=nQFcDojr809JhSS%2FPmsd3%2Bk3ZHcktOo68n17vRAv4Ys%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.woodgas.energy/resources</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Author of “<i>A Capitalist Carol</i>” (free digital copies at
<a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.capitalism21.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095251690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Qtm7fugA3ImLt69ndI%2BFQJgelJiWFaMBhpmdUgC5Tho%3D&reserved=0">
<span style="color:#0563C1">www.capitalism21.org</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> with pages 88 – 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a> <<a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 9:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anderson, Paul <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>; 'Patricia Mcardle' <<a href="mailto:solarwind1@me.com">solarwind1@me.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Is the Stoves list functioning again? RE: New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The stoves list is still active with 943 subscribers. We don’t know how many are “live”. Only a few have posted in recent months including Andrew, Crispin, Ron, Kevin, Rogerio, Stephen Joseph etc. Some, like Chalrie, have just been quiet.
You posted in October and December 2021. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have considered migrating the list to the Groups.io server where we host Biochar which we migrated from Yahoo. . There are advantages, including a smart phone app, but we would like to preserve the archives and we don’t know if that
is possible yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tom <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Stoves <<a href="mailto:mailman-bounces@bio.bioenergylists.org">mailman-bounces@bio.bioenergylists.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anderson, Paul<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 5:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Patricia Mcardle <<a href="mailto:solarwind1@me.com">solarwind1@me.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Is the Stoves list functioning again? RE: New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Patricia and ALL,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am in favor of Retained Heat Cookers. But I write here about the STOVES LIST SERVE. This is the FIRST message I have received in over 2 years. Why did it come through? (Note that Patricia sent to TWO addresses, and we do not
know yet which one worked.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now we will see if MY message reaches anyone? Kirk, Dean, Tom, Christa, Ron, Crispin, Dave, and all the others. Please reply so I / we know what has reached you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would love to seen the Stove listserv functional again!!!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Inventor of RoCC kilns and author of Biochar white paper : See
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<p class="MsoNormal">Author of “<i>A Capitalist Carol</i>” (free digital copies at
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<span style="color:#0563C1">www.capitalism21.org</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> with pages 88 – 94 about solving the world crisis for clean cookstoves.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Patricia Mcardle <<a href="mailto:solarwind1@me.com">solarwind1@me.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 21, 2022 11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>;
<a href="mailto:stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> New You Tube video. Fuel efficient biomass stoves and retained heat cooking<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You are invited to watch <a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzHdO_HaSqtQ&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095251690%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=NqIw1mGen8wuSXV4ypr%2BMgQIfxziiopq8oJIUK%2BQd%2B0%3D&reserved=0">my
latest You Tube video</a> (<i>10 minutes</i>) which explains how to reduce cooking time and save significant amounts of fuel by using a home-made retained heat basket to finish cooking pots of food that have been brought to a rolling boil for twenty minutes
over a fire. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">In this video, I've included a photo of the late, great Larry Winiarski teaching a group of Mexican women how to make retained heat baskets. I took that photo in 2008 when Larry and I were
in Mexico together on a Rotary project. During that trip, I filmed my very first and still most popular </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXSMR2ANIZ7E&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095407856%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=6eiPINTVo%2BTjCKL6mLxkEHIzRUtyWDb6CE2Cj9m9xHA%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">You
Tube video</span></a><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">. It shows Larry teaching the women how to make a 16-brick rocket stove. The last time I checked <span style="color:black;background:#F9F9F9">725,572 people had watched that video. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Back in 2001, Dean Still<span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif"> inspired me with something he posted on the stovers’ list serve: “<span style="color:black;background:white">In a perfect world, perhaps with a great, non-polluting
wood stove, would come a retained heat cooker (Haybox), a solar oven for baking and a parabolic or conical reflector for boiling water...Whole package might cost $100 which is dinner and a movie for some folks.</span>” </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">A few years ago, a crusty old U.S. Marine friend of mine in California, made a similar point about "</span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.appropedia.org%2FIntegrated_cooking&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095407856%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Ezi6VXDle4TRNy5skTtDbAMosI5pL0G9Rqv%2BhYHlWnI%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">integrated
cooking</span></a><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">" with a slightly different twist: "If you give my neighbor a pile of wood and a fuel efficient biomass stove—and, you give me the same amount of wood and the same biomass stove, but I also
have a solar cooker and a retained heat container, guess who'll run out of wood first?” </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">An integrated cooking system is certainly more sustainable for the rural poor than the subsidized LPG that the late</span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVMJcx47hsPc&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095407856%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=fRSUiZYUX3E4PL8N4ZqKKSs3eE6nyoB2xVzpSH4GB4w%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif"> Kirk Smith
aggressively promoted</span></a><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif"> with his mantra to “make the clean (<i>LPG</i>) available instead of "making the available (<i>wood</i>) clean”. It’s disheartening to see the former GACC (now the </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcleancooking.org%2Freports-and-tools%2Fscaling-lpg-for-cooking-in-developing-markets%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095407856%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=gKActTSnU73v0Zpj3CFcy1OxQZtOqa48ngFH%2Fb%2FviGg%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">CCA)
aggressively promoting LPG</span></a><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif"> in the developing world, but I guess that’s where the money is.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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cooking" during the two-day meeting. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"BookmanOldStyle",serif">I complied with his request, but when one of the speakers proposed adding a ’simmer’ function to the stoves, I raised my hand and suggested that it might be more cost effective to teach
people how to make and use retained heat baskets rather than trying to engineer a ’simmer’ function that would eventually break. My suggestion was also shot down. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsolarcooking.fandom.com%2Fwiki%2FPatricia_McArdle&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095407856%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Dfjl6UnJlkt560Bo29cGFdN5PfGPX2DSAACETZUduO4%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Book Antiqua",serif">Patricia
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif;color:black">Author, </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.npr.org%2F2011%2F06%2F04%2F136928898%2Ffarishta-afghan-fiction-from-the-foreign-service&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095407856%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2K1ITsA8fs3q4YbMKGaExRAhodC8wcApxvrQgFDhnhQ%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif">Farishta</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif;color:black">,
a novel about Afghanistan<br>
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energy<br>
Member Global Advisory Council, </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.solarcookers.org%2Fabout%2Fteam%2Fsci-global-advisor-council%2Fpatricia-mcardle&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095407856%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=xAg2nqKdP8c%2FQMxJ8ydiUTSuVBIb07TzQYS%2ByFNP%2FYE%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif">Solar Cookers
International</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif;color:black"><br>
Board of Advisors, </span><a href="https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.she-inc.org%2F%3Fpage_id%3D293&data=04%7C01%7C%7C28209f8c1be848f4ddf108d9f5c1d23e%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637811035095407856%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=FkDKAHRXjS9ElWuGh9C3HyyJGdA8kATL5Ssk5X5w8IE%3D&reserved=0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"BookAntiqua",serif">Solar
Household Energy</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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