<div dir="auto"><div>Dear Crispin,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for your observations. I wonder why the cylinder method in Uganda is no longer being used. It sounds much better than unmodified three stone.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A cylinder cooking hole should be more efficient. We tried putting maize stalks upright in the cooking hole. It worked but horizontal was easier. And liner bricks bricks are easier to make for a square hole.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Why do you say mixed fuel will work better? We will try it. But if I know the reasoning, our testing will be more efficient.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kevin </div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 5:40 PM Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <<a href="mailto:crispinpigott@outlook.com">crispinpigott@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dear Kevin<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>This is another fine piece of work. I looked at all the videos and the techniques are clearly explained.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I suggest that it is possible to make a round hole and to bundle the fuel with string or grass such that it is prepared in advance and fills the hole completely. This method of cooking with grass
and reeds was in use in Ugandan restaurants in 1986 or perhaps 1985. Fuel vendors prepared the fuel for sale in “cylinders” which were dropped into the stove and top-lit. The difference is that the fuel was standing up, not cross-layered and horizontal.
I understand they tied the reeds into long bundles with multiple strings and then sliced then like a sausage so one string held one bundle.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>You might try it to see if it is more convenient than hand-laying the pieces.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I am sure a mix of fuels would be better than one alone. Twigs and stover, for example.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Realizing that this is potentially wasteful, but have you tried burying a bucket in the ground and using that? You can douse it and lift it out by the handle. In some places buckets are hand made
from roofing as a cylinder, not tapered. That might be ideal.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Many thanks for your original ideas and extensive field work.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Stoves <<a href="mailto:stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stoves-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>K McLean<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 21, 2022 15:13<br>
<b>To:</b> Stoves and Biofuels Network <<a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>; Ronal Larson <<a href="mailto:rongretlarson@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">rongretlarson@comcast.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Stoves] ***SPAM*** Cooking Hole Modification to Three Stone Cookstove - Update<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Adding a 25x25x25 cm hole to traditional open-fire cookstoves may end the collection of firewood from forests in many areas. By piling fuel in the hole beneath the cookpot and lighting the pile on the top,
the fuel burns long, hot, with no tending and with less smoke. And by quenching the embers, cooks make biochar.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We found that most woody biomass bigger than thin twigs burns well in the <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FDmzQFCp2kNI&data=05%7C01%7C%7C68bcf13a7d194e0b350d08da53cb771b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637914430623277935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GGtQyXFPvzO7mFbB9bMNjvUsv64MuWe6UtJmqJLiwi8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">cooking
hole</a>. Firewood the size that is typically burned in unmodified three stone cookstoves burns for three hours without tending. Much less smoke is emitted than from an unmodified three stone cookstove. A colleague estimates that the amount of wood in the
cooking hole would burn for 30-40 minutes in an unmodified three stone cookstove. Here's a
<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F15V4vTJxO1Lcm0wFzB96pQT9jvgjaXkwh%2Fview%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=05%7C01%7C%7C68bcf13a7d194e0b350d08da53cb771b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637914430623277935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=1uOjT3ew6FHZMuIG7jeq3zZcQuDHKnON7E4HG987JVc%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">
video</a>. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thick twigs burned without tending for 1.5 hours. Thick twigs and small branches are abundant and unused in much of Africa.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The cooking hole also works with crop waste (maize stalks and cobs, cassava stems, banana peels, bean stems, ...), elephant grass, bamboo, large sawdust and wood shavings, sawdust briquettes, dung patties
and more. Depending on the fuel, the fire will burn without tending for 20 minutes to several hours. Here's our
<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FDmzQFCp2kNI&data=05%7C01%7C%7C68bcf13a7d194e0b350d08da53cb771b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637914430623277935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=GGtQyXFPvzO7mFbB9bMNjvUsv64MuWe6UtJmqJLiwi8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">
training video</a>.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Women can:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">- All but stop collecting firewood.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">- Leave the kitchen to do other things once they start the fire.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">- Make biochar.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">And 8-12 common bricks can support two cookpots over one cooking hole allowing two meals to be cooked with the same amount of fuel and time it takes to cook one meal. The time to boil is only a few minutes
longer than for one pot.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">In much of Africa, most people know how to make bricks. We show them how to make free custom bricks to line the cooking hole. Here is a <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F1b2WvePKX_ofnELUWhexqQZR4NyCrXxnH%2Fview%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=05%7C01%7C%7C68bcf13a7d194e0b350d08da53cb771b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637914430623277935%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IeKQEii4NbgtfQZmX8o5k9t%2FRaNn2cMhJydcOgUdwbQ%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">video</a>.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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