[Gasification] No time for beer in Munich- there's a real live imbert gasifier here

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:01:30 -0700, jim wrote in message 
<AANLkTin=r4kWhoJRNmZ2PVPSEcDt9-yTd_teRGpFONG8 at mail.gmail.com>:

> i'm still in munich and still enjoying the deutsches museum.  i asked
> for permission to inspect the internals of the imbert gasifier on the
> adler and was, shockingly, granted an "ok" to do so.  i spent three
> hours digging around in it yesterday, taking pictures of all
> internals, measuring details for cad drawings, and taking char
> samples.  i was rather wonderful, in a somewhat disturbingly geeky
> way.

..aye, a silly happy sooty grin on all pictures 
is the price you pay for such jackpots. ;o)

> after closer inspection, i need to somewhat retract the statement
> that the ancients had nothing on us "moderns".  there were some
> unusual and unexpected things in the imbert.  things i've never
> realized from the drawings and the reports.  nothing game changing,
> but some of the details and integrations between internal reactor
> components was more mature than we've realized.  i'm going to need to
> write this up in a series of reports, going component by component.
> in the interim, here's a portrait of the researcher at work . . .
> 
> http://www.gekgasifier.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1002&c=newimages
> 
> also, there turned out to be another vehicle with an imbert gasifier

..what year are these 2 gasifiers, or rather, 
when where they last serviced or modified?

> in the vehicle part of the museum.  this one was a ford truck with
> behind cab unit.  same basic architecture and components, but some
> significant differences in execution.
> 
> i didn't get to spelunk the ford gasifier.  i only got to dig through
> the one on the adler.  but fortunately i got to dig all i wanted.
> the musuem staff was excited that someone actually cared about this.
> the docents wanted to learn lots of details of why and how, as they
> gives tours of this machine regularly.
> 
> reports will start soon.
> 
> jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Mark Ludlow <mark at ludlow.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, Rolf!
> >
> > Very useful insight and perspective. Things are often much more
> > than they seem. (Every picture tells a story!)
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
> > [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of
> > Rolf Uhle
> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:19 AM
> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] No time for beer in Munich- there's a
> > real live imbert gasifier here
> >
> > Hallo Jim,
> > nice to know you enjoyed the GM just like I did both times I
> > visited it - must
> > be 30 + years ago.
> > The beer is good, too, but we also had good stuff at Zellingen.
> >
> > "just basic steel and surprisingly mediocore welding. it was funny
> > to see so many of the same problems and needs solved on the imbert
> > in the same hack manner many of us still do with a welder and a
> > hammer. i saw little lost knowledge to rediscover. i saw lots of
> > expedience, simplicity, and band aids."
> >
> > |||Those were hard times, self earned of course. People I talked to
> > who had lived that time told me everything good was reserved for
> > military production,
> > civil items were welded together by any means, gas mostly or with
> > crap electrodes and by those workers ( very often unskilled women
> > and compulsary labour) the war could spare.
> > And god knows how often they fixed broken weldings after a unlit
> > night drive
> >
> > over badly worn roads full of potholes. My parents told me amazing
> > stories about improvising and survival.
> > Plain sheet steel was everything they had, anything noble went into
> > weapons.
> > With the same effort in civil achievements, Hitler would have won
> > any war without fighting one...
> >
> > If you ever have a chance to see the Verkehrsmuseum Luzern (CH) ,
> > go. It is smaller than the DM but really woth your while.
> >
> > I went to the Valladolid Biomass Energy Show and showed some
> > pictures of the
> >
> > PP around. Great response!
> > We would have triumphed !
> > Next year perhaps...
> > Rolf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2010 03:43:25 schrieb jim mason:
> > > just basic steel and surprisingly mediocore welding. it was funny
> > > to see so many of the same problems and needs solved on the
> > > imbert in the same hack manner many of us still do with a welder
> > > and a hammer. i saw little lost knowledge to rediscover. i saw
> > > lots of expedience, simplicity, and band aids.
> >
> >
> >
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...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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