[Gasification] Enventix: Syngas and Biochar from Waste

[Jim Leach]

I have to warn you that such a plan has been tried by some very capable
people and the energy cost was found to be excessive.

Best Regards, 


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-----Original Message-----
From: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Brian D
Paasch
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 2:37 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Enventix: Syngas and Biochar from Waste

I would very much like to add a small plasma punch to our gasifier outlet.
Was sharing that thought with someone at church Sunday (yesterday) and he
suggested I look at welding equipment. And now here is Tom implying the same
thing. Two in two days.... need to think about this more....

-brian


On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Thomas Reed wrote:

> Dear Tom, Jeff and all
> 
> In the 1950s I Worked at the Linde Air (now Praxair) Company and was
director of welding research for a time.  We had a number of physicists
doing basic research, plus a lot of applied development work.  I hold
several patents on plasma torches, and am glad to see this discussion of the
merits of combining a small plasma input to aid pyrolysis.  
> 
> I hope most of this work is using graphite cathode (DC) or AC electrodes.
They are cheap, ell developed, and relatively citable compared to all
others.
> 
> Forward!
> 
> Tom Reed - Pyrologist
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dr Thomas B Reed
> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation www.Woodgas.com
> 
> On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:55 AM, "Tom Miles" <tmiles at trmiles.com> wrote:
> 
>> Jeff,
>> 
>> There seem to be two approaches to using plasma in biomass 
>> gasification: as an igniter and as a reformer. Two companies use the 
>> plasma as a super "hot plate" that they dump biomass onto in an 
>> updraft gasifier. This is the AlterNRG approach. 
>> http://www.alternrg.ca/ 
>> http://alternrg.com/plasma_market_solutions/biomass_to_ethanol
>> They are able to make a gas that is low in oxygen and rich in CO and 
>> H2 while supplying only about 3% of the input energy as electricity. 
>> The rest is from the biomass.
>> 
>> There are other plasma reformers coupled with updraft gasifiers. 
>> There was a project proposed in Canada using this approach with a PRM
gasifier.
>> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/prmemay2007 
>> http://www.prmenergy.com/ I don't know if this project has snapped,
crackled or popped.
>> 
>> Los Angeles Country looked at plasma gasifiers for waste a couple of 
>> years go.
>> http://dpw.lacounty.gov/epd/tf/Attachments/SubCommittee%20Attachments
>> /CT_Eva
>> l_Rpt_App.pdf
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>> [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Jeff Davis
>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:58 PM
>> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
>> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Enventix: Syngas and Biochar from Waste
>> 
>> Dear Tom,
>> 
>> I've often thought that a modified updraft gas producer coupled to a 
>> plasma reactor could be a lot of fun when working with waste feedstocks.
>> 
>> 
>> Snap crackle and pop,
>> 
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> 
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