[Gasification] (no subject)

Phil Marsh marshbros at mcbridebc.com
Tue Jul 19 00:24:46 CDT 2011


I have thought about it a few times...... but have so far refrained:) I do
agree with the two stage reactor though....pyrolysis first, gasification
second....no matter what all the other Phil's think:)

Phil Marsh
Marshbros.
250 569-7858

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[mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Miles
Sent: July-18-11 8:13 PM
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IIs there anyone else named Phil on the list that would like to respond for
Phil Badger?

Tom Miles

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[mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of phillip
manske
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:25 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] (no subject)

Hi Dr. Reed,

Thanks for the concern.  I had to pay bills for two months and then I
needed some cash so I can go marriage agency dates in Ukraine.  I
lived in Ukraine for a year so I kinda know whats up.  I found a woman
there that likes me.  She looks like Meagan Fox but she has larger
breasts.  She sells cosmetics and lives in Melitopol.  I work next to
a corporate lake and the lake is feed by storm run off.  The lake has
some good wildlife and I have taken to  turtle rescue when the chelons
get stuck in the drainage pipes.  I got ten already.  I have a snapper
hatchling and hand sized softshell on a shelf by my desk.

That's pretty cool Phil but it has nothing to with biomass.

I don't talk about gasifiers here because I don't know Jack.
Sometimes you just need to shut up and listen.

Yea so I decided I should read about the matter.
This book is great.
http://www.amazon.com/Transportation-Biofuels-Production-Biodiesel-Chemistry
/dp/1849730431

I got an eCopy if you want to see the relevant material.  The methane
part looks way doable and in fact I'm slowly working on that.  I found
sciencedirect.com which has a great index and all of the papers on the
matter are availalbe for free at the uni library but I don't have my
Indiana drives lic/ID yet so its another two weeks.  The papers come
to $4500 if I have to pay.

I wrote an executive summary for someone at GoBig and I after I sent
that off they asked for an executive summary and asked a few other
questions.  I made a good post at GEK and I got ass kissy with Mr.
Mason trying to amend my earlier offences.

Whats up with you Tom?

Warmest Regards

Phillip




Phillip Manske
195 w Puetz Rd h-114
Oak Creek WI, 53154
pmanske at afuels.net

Alchemy Fuels Executive Summary
Saturday, July 16, 2011

The Energy Policy Act of 2005 has mandated that investor owned
utilities must provide a certain amount of the energy they provide
must be sourced from renewable sources.  This amount has been
regulated to grow both now and in the future.  To date, wind and solar
sources have been providing most of this energy while biomass sourced
energy has lagged.  Utilities have been rejecting new applications for
wind and solar energies while courting biomass providers as many slots
are still open.  Alchemy has determined a course to make low cost
biofuel to fulfill these requirements is a realistic and profitable
goal.

After reviewing scientific literature on the matter I, (working as
Alchemy Fuels) have decided that a two stage reactor designed to make
methane is the most efficient route to a biofuel called “biogas”.
This method was developed early in the biofuels research efforts and
then abandoned in favor of ethanol and other more lucrative
transportation fuels.  Methane is a well founded and well functioning
fuel for generators designed to work with natural gas.   This process
is well reviewed and appreciated by the scientific community for its
ease use and lack of exotic requirements.   It can be described as a
methane digester without the required tons of manure feedstock.  The
research was pioneered by a scientist named Gaddy who founded a
company called BRI.  The process is referred as the microbial catalyst
cellulosic fuel pathway.

The process uses the output from gasifiers that use wood mass as a
feedstock.  A handful of gases are provided by the gasifier with the
most important being carbon monoxide and the lesser gases being
hydrogen, carbon dioxide and methane.  All of the gasses are used in
the process.  The first stage of the process uses a bacteria called p.
productus that uses the CO for growth and CO2 for the production of
acetate which is the feedstock for the second and final stage where a
bacteria called m. barkeri uses the acetate and hydrogen to make
methane.  Methane, unlike ethanol , does not need distilling which
saves considerable effort, energy and money.

The market for the gas or gas use comes from the aforementioned lack
of biomass energy providers.  Contract length is from 10 – 20 years,
amount of sale is typically 800 kilo watts per hour and the
compensation is from $.10 - $.15  per Kw hour.    Providers are
typically allowed to provide 24 hours a day.  Demand may vary but
demand is typically strong.  Biogas contracts are generally designed
for methane digesters but this type of process meets the legal
definition of biogas even without the $1 million digester.

This is a niche market but it can provide excellent returns and a
number of contracts can be signed simultaneously.   Sales are assured,
no distribution network is required.  Plants like this operate at a
technician level and not an engineer or scientist level.  There are
few critical points that may induce failure.  The required insurance
is difficult to get but I have found a provider and at least one work
around method.

Plants should be located near the biomass source to save money on
transportation and when the gas is made, it can be shipped at much
less expense to the generating facilities .   The plants will be
filled with wood biomass, gasifiers and vats that look like
microbrewery vats.

Being averse to large expenditures, I recommend a modest approach to
first make a five gallon reactor using bottled gas, then a system
using a small gasifier and then finally a system scaled to produce
fuel at the rate to meet the 800 kwh limit.

The described  process above is worth study and investment.  The
science is sound, the investment and risk is small, operating overhead
is very low and sales are guaranteed.  It appears margins should be
very wide unlike typical margins that are available to investors.

Questions may be directed to me at the email address above.

Regards

Phillip Manske








On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Thomas Reed <tombreed2010 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Phil
> I haven't heard your name for.a decade or so.  What cooks in biomass?
> Tom Reed
>
> Dr Thomas B Reed
> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> www.Woodgas.com
> On Jul 18, 2011, at 7:04 PM,
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