[Gasification] Pyrolysis Oil in ICE

Greg Manning a31ford at gmail.com
Sun Mar 20 17:46:40 CDT 2011


Cubic inches, is still cubic inches.... (LOL, Ok L3 is still L3) 5.7L for
example. > 350 CID

Greg
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  Thank you all for your replies, well that idea was short lived. Back to
the idea of running on woodgas I guess.


  I didn't think the water content would be a problem, as it would
essentially be steam injection. But the other issues seem insurmountable.


  Arnt even if the engine could run hotter with better materials, would that
not cause pre-ignition?




  Just a further question re woodgas in engines. When calculating the size
of the gasifier with regards to engine output, is this done on the engines
output on conventional fuel, or its estimated output on woodgas?


  Cheers


  Jason






  On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Thomas Reed <tombreed2010 at gmail.com>
wrote:

    Dear Jason and all

    We worked with fast pyrolysis oil a good deal at NREL in the 1980s.
Typical..yitco tans a good deal of water which of course will distill over.
However, it is full of free radicals,and heating caused it to turn to a
solid mess.  I'm sure that some volatiles could be collected, but not much.

    Most of the work was done by Jim Diebold, now at Community Power Corp.in
Littleton.

    Slow pyrolysis of course produces a few % methanol, acetone, vanillin
etc.

    Good luck,

    Tom Reed

    Dr Thomas B Reed
    President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
    www.Woodgas.com


    On Mar 19, 2011, at 13:39, Jason Stewart <urepedese at gmail.com> wrote:

    > A thought occurred to me overnight as I contemplated building a
gasifier for a car.
    >
    > I know of people that used waster Avtur to run their car by using a
vapouriser, after first warming it up on petrol. Could this also be done
with pyrolysis oil?
    >
    > Regard
    >
    > Jason

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