[Gasification] Tar Processing

Arnt Karlsen arnt at c2i.net
Wed May 18 06:19:02 CDT 2011


On Wed, 18 May 2011 10:46:41 +0800, Anand wrote in message 
<BANLkTi=deAx_9VHYHzMytCEPGesJ8btfYw at mail.gmail.com>:

> Dear Arnt,
> what is the use of the emulsion made from tar and soap?

..tar, oil and soap, most would call it toxic waste, I have 
only used it to (accidentally) dissolve asphalt.  Potential
uses, now that is another matter I might consider on public 
funds, I'm not doing it in Norway on my own funds. ;o)

> Yours
> A.D.Karve
> 
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Arnt Karlsen <arnt at c2i.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 May 2011 07:35:32 -0400, Thomas wrote in message
> > <5B63E130-CC20-44AE-9516-A2610117681E at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Dear ADK and all
> >>
> >> AD KARVE has an interesting idea here.  I doubt if he or I have the
> >> equipment to follow it up, but hope some others here may do so.
> >>
> >> When you tear the lignin and celluloses in wood apart during
> >> pyrolysis, you briefly have a lot of VERY reactive species (free
> >> radicals) desperately looking for partners.
> >
> > ..that makes a lot of sense, and helps explain
> > my tar vapor flare performance. :o)
> >
> >> If they were supplied with a surplus of attractive partners, they
> >> would make many attractive combinations, some commercial today, and
> >> probably many others that would be attractive if available.
> >>
> >> If the diluent partner was methanol or ethanol, they would form
> >> esters (perfumes) ethers, and many other interesting compounds that
> >> I'm not enough organic chemist to list.
> >>
> >> I hope someone will give it a try...
> >
> > ..bubbling those tar vapors thru soap water and waste oil, creates
> > an amazingly stable emulsion with a 2 year shelf life IME, we made
> > half a dozen barrels that I understand the City of Stavanger took
> > good care of then they tore down the building around our
> > experimental backyard.
> >
> > ..mixed a wee bit of my goo with saw dust, sand and dirt to clean
> > up a wee driveway oil slick spill, the problem was it also ate the
> > asphalt.
> >
> >>
> >> Tom Reed
> >>
> >> Dr Thomas B Reed
> >> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> >> www.Woodgas.com
> >
> >
> > --
> > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
> > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
> >  Scenarios always come in sets of three:
> >  best case, worst case, and just in case.
> >
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-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.




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