[Gasification] reducing temp. of gasification
Kevin
kchisholm at ca.inter.net
Tue Oct 11 14:17:17 CDT 2011
Dear GF
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From: GF
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Jai.
One system worth developing would be to conduct the (gaseous products) of pyrolysis, "burning without oxygen" passing this "smoke " through a high temperature reactor such as a red hot "heat exchanger" heated by the exhaust manifold of a fully loaded internal combustion engine,then subjecting this heated stream of tar bearing smoke through a high frequency electro magnetic field. thus forming an ionized plasma with the use of domestic micro wave magnetron/s
# I think I was right after all. "The best way to cure a problem is to avoid it in the first place." :-)
Best wishes,
Kevin
The posibility of water shift reaction for enriching the gas with hydrogen in this area is high, also any condensate would resemble ethanol rather than tar. The micro wave enclosure must be made with refractory and screen with metal ,the gas inlet and outlet screened with the same material as used in the door of the microwave oven.
Because there is such enormous waste heat available from an ICE. the pre heating of distilled water into super heated steam is easily obtained, which will cancel endothermic reactions of water shift when added to your gas stream.
GF
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From: Kevin <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>
To: jai balwanshi <jai764u at yahoo.com>; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] reducing temp. of gasification
Dear Jai
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From: jai balwanshi
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:05 AM
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we have many method to reduce tar but i want which is most simplest.
# Your very simple, but very important question was: "What is the simplest way to reduce tar?" I feel that the short answer is "Burn it."
# Support for this simplistic answer is based on the fact most gasifiers producing low tar woodgas seem to operate with a high reaction zone temperature. The trick is to burn the tars evolved by pyrolysis, while burning the least amount of char. This is accomplished in the Imbert Style of gasifier by optimal placement and sizing of the air jets in relation to the hearth size and location for the particular kind of fuel employed..
# It would be very helpful to the List if you would be kind enough to outline some of the many methods you have to reduce tars.
# Thanks!
Kevin
Jai Balwanshi
Assistant Professor
Mechanical Engineering Department
VITS - Indore
Contact No. 9713281992
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From: Pete & Sheri <spaco at baldwin-telecom.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2011 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Gasification] reducing temp. of gasification
Hello, Greg.
I know that the correct solution to tar is to keep the reactor temp up,
but, just in case,
how do YOU test for tar?
Pete Stanaitis
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Manning
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 3:13 PM
To: jai balwanshi; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] reducing temp. of gasification
Greetings, Jai, and list members.
Reducing tars in gas output, is really quite simple, design a gasifier
that works correctly for the desired feedstock is the main method,
however, you can also design a poorly built gasifier, and use many
cleaning filters after the gasifier, in the gas output pipes.
But really, one must understand what "tars" are, and at what internal
temperature the gasifier runs at, once this is known, then the design
can be re-designed to achive the correct temperature to reduce the
tars BEFORE they enter the gas output area.
In other words, generally 2 or more gasifiers must be built (or the
original one modified) to the point of acceptable level of tars within
the gas output.
Greg Manning
Canadian Gasifier Ltd.
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