[Gasification] 2 MWe Gasifier at University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada

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On 6/26/2012 7:31 AM, Mark Ludlow wrote:
>
> Nice!
>
> *From:*gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org 
> [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *jim mason
> *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 4:24 PM
> *To:* Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
> *Subject:* Re: [Gasification] 2 MWe Gasifier at University of British 
> Columbia, Vancouver, Canada
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com 
> <mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com>> wrote:
>
> Thomas
>
> Who are the likely small scale gasifier suppliers that will conquer these
> challenges?
>
> tom,
>
> you might want to add us to this list.  we're out this week setting up 
> the first 100kw powertainer at the university of minnesota morris. 
>  first day looks like this:
>
> http://gekgasifier.com/wpgallery/powertainer-at-university-of-minnesota-morris/
>
> this is not a commercial unit yet.  it is the first prototype.  it 
> will likely break 100 ways and humble its makers 100 more ways before 
> it is really done.  but it demos how you can compact and integrate the 
> full system of gasifier, engine and fuel hopper within a standard 20' 
> shipping container.
>
> there is an opening this thursday on site if any want to come and 
> visit.   i'll send more info this eve.
>
> jim
>
>     A
>     Ankur Scientific, India http://www.ankurscientific.com/
>
>     B.
>     Babcock Volund, Denmark http://www.volund.dk/
>            3 gasifiers up to 2 MWe
>
>     Biogen, Dominican Republic
>     http://www.biogendr.com/app/en/frontpage.aspx
>            300-500 kWe modules, Italy
>     C
>     CarboConsult, South Africa http://www.carboconsult.com/
>            250 kWe, Melanie, Gauteng, South Africa
>
>     Carbona/Andritz, Finland
>     http://www.andritz.com/pp-gasification-andritz-carbona
>            3 MWe plant in Skive, Denmark
>
>     CleanStGas, Austria http://www.cleanstgas.com/
>            125-250 kWe/235-480 kWth
>
>     Community Power Corporation www.gocpc.com <http://www.gocpc.com>
>            50-75 kWe modules.
>
>     E
>     EKZ, Switzerland www.ekz.ch <http://www.ekz.ch>
>            Turnkey wood gasifier installations
>
>     G
>     Gasek, Finland www.gasek.fi <http://www.gasek.fi>
>            50 kWe/100 kWth
>
>     I
>     IISc, India  and Licensees
>     http://cgpl.iisc.ernet.in/site/Technologies/BiomassGasification/tabid/68/Def
>     ault.aspx
>
>
>     M
>
>     MEVA Innovation AB, Sweden (fine wood fuels)
>     http://www.mevainnovation.se/
>            1-10 MWe; 1.2 MWe in construction Horlax, Pitea
>
>     Mothermik, Germany http://www.mothermik.com/engl/prod-1holzver-e.html
>            10 plants.250 kWe
>
>     N
>     Nexterra Ltd., Vancouver, Canada http://www.nexterra.ca/
>            2 MWe in construction. University of British Columbia
>
>     R
>     Repotec, Austria http://www.repotec.at/index.php/homepage.html
>            Dual fluidized bed for CHP
>
>     S
>     Satake, Japan (IISc, India technology)
>     http://www.satake-group.com/news/2008/080214.html
>            Up to 900 kWe modules
>
>     Stirling DK, Denmark http://www.stirling.dk/
>            15-140 kWe, Updraft gasifier with stirling engine.
>
>     T
>     TK Eenergi, Denmark http://www.tke.dk
>            3 stage gasifier
>     U
>     Urbas Energietechnik, Austria http://www.rsbiomass.com/urbas_gas.html
>            150 kWe/310 kWth fixed bed downdraft
>
>     W
>     Weiss, Denmark, two stage gasification www.weiss-as.dk
>     <http://www.weiss-as.dk>
>            1-2 MWe
>
>     X
>     Xylowatt, Belgium http://www.xylowatt.com/
>            350 kWe modules
>
>     XyloPower AG, Switzerland www.xylopower.com <http://www.xylopower.com>
>
>
>     Which companies have 3 operating, commercial, gasifiers?
>
>     Who else?
>
>     Tom Miles
>
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>     <mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>     [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>     <mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org>] On Behalf
>     Of Thomas
>     Koch
>
>     Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 2:15 PM
>     To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification;
>     mark at ludlow.com <mailto:mark at ludlow.com>
>     Subject: Re: [Gasification] 2 MWe Gasifier at University of British
>     Columbia, Vancouver, Canada
>
>     Tom
>
>     I am sure this price level is achieveable - BUT BUT BUT - there is
>     a major
>     challege that must be overcommed.
>
>     You need some where you can have 5-10 similar gasifiers operating
>     for 10 of
>     thousans of hours each with in reachable distance from their
>     "parent (s)"
>     and this alone needs 50 - 100 mio $ on top of the market price for the
>     electricity - and it is possible to maintain a stable and bright
>     and not
>     religious brain capacity for a decade or two.
>
>     On top of that you need to start with a good idea and that is
>     where most
>     principles fail.
>     And what does that mean?
>     Not too complex - with a potential to handle the challenges that
>     will come
>     in an ECONOMICALLY COMPETITIVE way!!!
>
>     Examples - Vølund - Nexterra - CFBs-Repotec and this type of
>     gasifiers will
>     alvays have the challenge og tar/perticle gas handling issues -
>     personally I
>     believe it is too complex to handle in a competitive way.
>     FCC - may be large scale - but catalyst and gasifier is a challenge
>     2-3 stage - Viking - double feuer - TKE - and the likes have high
>     temperature challenges and reduction challenges and bed stability
>     issues -
>     variation in gaspermeability etc Stirling show a large drop in
>     efficiency if
>     upscaled above 50-75 kW thus the biomass handling systems becomes
>     very small
>     and sensitive.
>     Entrained flow are very big and needs extensive pretreatment of
>     the fuel.
>
>     Many things will work for some time if nursed properly by the
>     enthusiastic
>     developers.
>
>     Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
>     -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>     Fra: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>     <mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>     [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>     <mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org>] På vegne
>     af Tom Miles
>     Sendt: 25. juni 2012 22:51
>     Til: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification';
>     mark at ludlow.com <mailto:mark at ludlow.com>
>     Emne: Re: [Gasification] 2 MWe Gasifier at University of British
>     Columbia,
>     Vancouver, Canada
>
>     Thomas,
>
>     You seem to be the bearer of good news.
>
>     Can you deliver a (3 stage) gasifier(s) to deliver 2 MWe to a grid in
>     Alaska? What would you expect the capital and operating costs to be?
>
>     We have a few small communities with electrical loads of 1-2 MWe.
>     Power is
>     currently supplied from diesel generators for USD $0.44-$0.65/kWh.
>     Good
>     clean wood chips are available at $40-50% MC and $USD 85-100/dry
>     ton. #2
>     heating oil costs about $4.40 or about $32/MMBtu (HHV). Most
>     communities
>     just want to produce power. Heat distribution does not exist but
>     they could
>     probably sell heat in a small loop for about $20/MMBtu. Is there a
>     future
>     for gasification in these communities?
>
>     Thanks
>
>     Tom Miles
>
>
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