[Gasification] Fwd: For Your Safety from Shell Oil Company - THIS IS NOT A JOKE! Clash of technologies.

[Thomas Reed]

Dear Mark

I only passed on the warning from Shell Oil.  I have had no experience myself with cell phones igniting a combustible vapor, but I don't think it is impossible.  What is your basis for thinking so?

Tom Reed

Thomas B Reed 


On Mar 18, 2012, at 10:30 AM, "Mark Ludlow" <mark at ludlow.com> wrote:

> No one has managed to make a cell phone ignite gasoline vapors. this is
> Internet Urban Myth BS!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Robert
> Kana
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 6:57 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Fwd: For Your Safety from Shell Oil Company -
> THIS IS NOT A JOKE! Clash of technologies.
> 
> Dear Dr. Reed,
> Thanks for the advice, we all know cell phones generate some kind of
> magnetic power, when it is connecting. I believe there is a connection, but
> gasoline fumes will not ignite unless there is a source of heat or spark.
> Most of the US is now covered with Stage 2 vapor recovery system, which
> consist of double pipes, one for fuel going in to the tank another one fumes
> going back to storage tanks. All the gasoline trucks are grounded with
> special wires at the fueling terminals, as well as grounded in the  gas
> station delivery points with the metal piping connectors.
> Over 30 years of gas station operator, contractor and installing underground
> storage tanks in NY, I had 2 experiences with fires. 
> Actually one fire and one explosion. They both involved with the fumes. 
> First incident in one of my gas stations, there was a spill in hot summer,
> over fill gasoline spilled on the floor. The next car come to get gas,
> stopped right on the spill and it caught a fire from the hot muffler. We put
> out the fire immediately, but instructed all the gas stations to keep a
> bucket full of water to wash any spill and cool the vapors of  gasoline. On
> second incident, one of my mechanic friend was fixing a gas tank and he
> wanted to look inside the tank with a hand lamp. The heat source from the
> lamp cause explosion of the fumes in the tanks, my friend survived the
> accident.
> I just want to add couple more pre cautions. Most of us fill the gas at self
> service.
> When the nozzle clicks, come to closest number and do not overfill.
> If there is a spill no matter how small just put on some water, most of the
> gas stations has water for cleaning windshields.
> When you pull in the gas station, make sure the ground is clean.
> And always remember, the fumes from the gasoline is extremely flammable.
> Regards,
> Robert
> 
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