[Gasification] mycoremediation of tarry water

[stuart mather]

Pressure cookers all have failsafes which blow out if the pressure climbs too high for some reason. I would have thought the failsafes developed for steam boilers are pretty effective. I think steam boilers don't lend themselves to being' tinkered'  with though 'the same probably goes for the steam engine itself..
Stuart..



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 From: Mark Ludlow <mark at ludlow.com>
To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org> 
Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Gasification] mycoremediation of tarry water
 

Jeff,
Any new boiler is safe (for the purposes for which it was intended). This well may include biomass pyrolysis gas, coal, or practically any other fuel. Boilers ARE safe and have redundant safety systems.
A used boiler, of uncertain provenance, could have thin tubes or be installed incorrectly or be operated without some of its critical safety systems intact. These systems not only prevent calamity but protect the integrity of the boiler. But a boiler will not last without good water chemistry.
 
However, there is nothing inherently unsafe about steam. Water transfers more heat per unit of mass than any other substance. Steam is an extremely convenient medium and is ubiquitous in industrial applications of all sorts, and nearly universal in the power generation industry.
 
Have no fear!
Mark
 
From:Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Davis
Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 11:02 PM
To: doug.williams; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] mycoremediation of tarry water
 
Another way to look at this is to say that the problem is not with the gas producer BUT with the engine style used.

An IC engine needs clean gas and most gas producers have a problem producing clean gas.

If something like a steam engine was used the gas and all by products could be burned.

On one hand a boiler can explode but a tar pond can last many years. Pick your poison, so to speak..

Would it be easer to design a safer boiler ? ? ?

Any engineers out there up to it ? ? ?



Turning the equation upside down,


Jeff



On 02/02/2013 11:52 PM, doug.williams wrote:
People desperate for electrical power in poor developing countries, are not aware or interested in how the power is made, or what the operator does with his cooling ponds. The stink usually is enough to warn you about these issues, but people including yourself, whom I assume is well educated, need to be better informed of environmental issues regarding condensate.  We wave a red flag like the man walking in front of the first Cars, creates awareness that a dangerous change in water use is in progress, and responsible management is required. Water scrubbers draws our attention calling for close scrutiny. No more, no less, hence, these interesting exchanges taking place on this Forum.
 
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