[Gasification] Try this better address for the article.

bayent at ns.sympatico.ca bayent at ns.sympatico.ca
Fri Apr 11 06:42:23 CDT 2014


The devil in the details!
;)
---- Kevin <kchisholm at ca.inter.net> wrote: 
> Dear DoDuc, Stephen, and Dan D
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> #The Patent Number would seem to be:
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> We also note, that, in at least one of our prior reports, the one concerning "US Patent 8,435,457 - Synthesis of Hydrocarbons Via Catalytic Reduction of CO2" specifically, we made an error in the transcription of patent numbers in our excerpts, which sadly might have contributed to confusion on the part of those interested enough to search the available electronic records themselves.
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> # This is no big deal... simply degas seawater to recover the CO2 dissolved in it, perhaps with assistance of a bit of acid to break up carbonates. To get hydrogen, simply electrolyze the water. Once they have the  CO2, they simply add more energy to break it up into CO. Then they can make Synthesis Gas, and then they can make hydrocarbon fuels.
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> # They don't say where they get the energy to electrolyze the water. That is "the Elephant in the Room" that they don't address. :-) The original article is highly misleading, and seems to suggest that the Navy can simply take seawater and run its ships from it, to meet its energy requirements.
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> Kevin
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Tuong DoDuc 
>   To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
>   Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:41 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Gasification] Try this better address for the article.
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> 
>   I agree with Stephen. 
>   The critical part (energy wise) is energy to produce H2, which as stated, should come from either nuclear or any other non-fossil-fuels like wind, solar...
>   The second part, as I understood, is the synthesis of H2 and CO2 under the Fischer-Tropsch catalyst. 
>   Part 1 is often hided to the public as they would like to emphasize their contribution in Part 2, as well as to please the tax-payers that they are doing great thing. 
>   More scientific background can be found here with some evidence of the Navy's Patents: 
>   http://www.wvcoal.com/research-development/us-navy-harvests-co2-from-seawater-for-hydrocarbon-synthesis.html
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>   Few cents from my side.
>   D.D.Tuong
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>   On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:55 AM, <sabbadess at aol.com> wrote:
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>     Dan,
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>     There is a huge amount of energy in a gallon of jet fuel.  The only power source remotely big enough is the ship's nuclear reactor.
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>     Stephen Abbadessa
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Carefreeland <Carefreeland at aol.com>
>     To: gasification <gasification at bioenergylists.org>
>     Cc: wastewatts <wastewatts at yahoogroups.com>
>     Sent: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 9:51 pm
>     Subject: [Gasification] Try this better address for the article.
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>     Article didn't copy right first time Try this.
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>     http://www.ibtimes.com/goodbye-oil-us-navy-cracks-new-renewable-energy-technology-turn-seawater-fuel-allowing-1568455 
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>     Where does the energy come from the crack the seawater?  Anyone?  Anyone?  
>         
>         Dan Dimiduk 
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