[Gasification] Cellulose Gas and Biochar option

[Paul Anderson]

Tom,

I (and many others, for sure) appreciate your explanations (below).

One question:   The lignin is present as the celluloses are changed to 
gas.   And the lignin BECOMES char.   Please discuss that chemistry of 
lignin becoming char.   What is happening?

Comment:  Looking at the gases that are coming out of TLUDs (that is, 
the gases BEFORE they get to any combustor), they appear to be (seem to 
be, give the impression of, possibly are) loaded with the stuff that 
would clog engines.  So I need a chemist's explanation of why those 
gases have advantages over those from the Imbert, etc.

Still learning,

Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
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On 2/7/2014 4:36 PM, Tom Reed wrote:
> Evan
>
> Good question, "Why do TLUDs (Toplit updraft combustors)  exclude hemicellulose and lignin?"  First, I think they do burn the hemicellulose along with the cellulose.  Maybe I should have said "celluloses".  (The hemicellulose is only a few % of wood! and is even more volatile than the cellulose. )
>
> You are correct.  The cellulose (and hemicellulose) become volatile at about 330C,
>
>      C6H10O5 + 1/2 O2 ===> 6 CO + 5 H2    Delta H = (2829 - 3080) -260 ENDOTHERMICl
>
> and generates the gas we see burning in the match (for instance).  The same temperature converts the lignin to charcoal, and if there is a choice between cellulose (in the next lower layer for TLUDS) and this charcoal, the flame moves to the cellulose gas from the next layer, leaving the charcoal behind, protected by the oxygen free gas left from cellulose combustion.
>
> The WWII (Imbert) gasifiers injected air below the unburned wood and above the charcoal as it formed.  This keeps the air in balance, since it too much charcoal was momentarily consumed, more wood fell in front of the air nozzles and balance was restored.
> <><><>
>
> Today we have an alternate use for the charcoal, Biochar, to improve soil fertility and reduce global warming, so by consuming only the celluloses, we produce ~ 20% charcoal from our wood supply. So the TLUD gasifier is a simple alternative to Imbert.  It also produces a gas that is easier to clean for engine use.
>
> It is surprising that, with all the dependence on wood burning for heat, this wasn't discovered centuries earlier.  If you make a vertical pile of fireplace logs and light ON TOP, they will burn down at a steady rate, the embers of each layer lighting the next layer, no matter how high the pile.
>
> Try it, and send comments.
>
> Tom Reed
>
> Dr. Thomas B Reed
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>
>> On Feb 7, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Evan Marks <yarmarks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A question to Tom Reed:
>>
>> Just wanted to get some clarity on the statment that TLUDs only burn cellulose. If we are contrasting for instance WWII sytems and TLUDs, and therefore limitation to only the cellulose fraction, is the primary difference temperature? Why do TLUDs exclude hemicellulose and lignin? Is the cellulose fraction equivalent to the volatile fraction?
>>
>> Thanks, -EM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Tom Miles and all
>>
>> WWII gasification converted all the fuel into a low quality (150Btu/scf) gas that required considerable cleanup. Before use in engines.
>>
>> Now that we recognize the value of biochar as
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>> O. A soil amendment
>>
>> O. Reducing global warming
>>
>> a second option is more attractive.
>>
>> In the TLUD stove and larger (eg 33 gal garbage can) only the cellulose burns, giving a cleaner gas
>>
>> C6H10O5 + 1/2 O2 ===>
>> 6O +  5 H2
>>
>> Plus. biochar for addition to the soil.
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