[Gasification] information for Ethiopia

Paul Anderson psanders at ilstu.edu
Fri Nov 7 11:41:18 CST 2014


Melkamu,

Summary:   Your efforts are NOT aligned with THIS Listserv which is 
about gasifers and making electricity, etc, which you are not doing.

Join the      Stoves Listserv        stove.bioenergylists.org has the 
way to join.

I will see your messages there as you introduce your project.

Doc

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 11/6/2014 1:07 AM, Melkamu Nibret wrote:
>
> Dear  Prof. Paul S. Anderson
>
>
> 1. I am working on microgrid design for the rural village.it 
> <http://village.it> is off grid and I am doing the power generation 
> part .the village have 400 households and now the village use kerosene 
> for light purpose and wood for cooking.so I am designing a microgrid 
> having the solar and wind system for lighting and other purpose .I 
> choose to use wind and solar because the village have a good solar 
> radiation and wind speed potential. For the wind I am planning to use 
> small wind turbine. Now I don't have a bouget but that village is 
> selected as a model village by the university and as my advisor told 
> me they plan to electrify that village. When ma paper is done the 
> university see it and give me some of the bouget and then I will apply 
> the rest to nongovernmental organization work on green energy. If u 
> need to see the power that I plan for the village I will attach you 
> the document.
>
> 2.When I said I design the cooking part with solar energy I don't mean 
> the gasifier stove. I mean using other material like resistor or like 
> normal stove.so when I design it the resistor need 3KW power which is 
> very costy. Then I try to find other alternative for cooking then I 
> came up with gasifier stove.it <http://stove.it> need only 3W and cost 
> effective. I read so many kind of gasifier stove like the forced air 
> and natural draft one. I also see how they construct on youtube too. 
> But I need some suggestion and idea.
>
>  3. I love to join because the stove is one of my focus on my project.
>
>
> kindles regards
>
> Melkamu
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu 
> <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Melkamu,
>
>     Your reply is useful.   There are some questions for
>     clarification.   Please comment and confirm or correct the following.
>
>     1.  You are primarily working on a Microgrid for a village.   Is
>     the project about the grid of connections, or about the power
>     generation, or both?   More details please.   Size of village and
>     energy desired and what is currently available and what is the
>     desired usage of the power?   etc.   send details.  And you have a
>     budget?
>
>     2.  You mention the gasifier stoves.  You wrote;
>>     when i design the cooking part with solar energy  it is very
>>     costy  cause for cooking only it needs 3kw panel for each
>>     household . 
>     USUALLY, the gasifier stoves (TLUDs mainly) are natural draft (ND)
>     and do not need any power.
>
>     But there are (coming soon also) TLUDs with Fan Assistance (FA
>     also means Forced Air).   But they need only about 3 watts (not
>     kW), which can be done via the Solar panels and battery backups.  
>     The use of electricity for cooking (as in hot plates and
>     appliances) is not recommended.
>
>     3.  I work with the TLUD stoves  (both ND and FA), and the
>     discussion about those stove is via the Stoves Listserv, that you
>     might consider joining if the stoves are the focus of your project.
>
>     We look forward to your reply.
>
>     Note:  until 19 Nov, my replies could be delayed.  I am on a road
>     trip from IL to CA in the USA, including the Power Africa 2014
>     Conference in Golden Colorado on 13 - 14 Nov.
>     Happy to meet with anyone during that trip and at the conference.
>
>     Paul Anderson
>
>     Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>     Email:psanders at ilstu.edu  <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>    
>     Skype: paultlud      Phone:+1-309-452-7072  <tel:%2B1-309-452-7072>
>     Website:www.drtlud.com  <http://www.drtlud.com>
>
>     On 11/5/2014 12:48 AM, Melkamu Nibret wrote:
>>     Dear paul
>>     i am a power system engineering postgraduate student i am try to
>>     do my thesis on Microgrid design for the model rural village
>>     kollela in Ethiopia so i plan to design affordable design for the
>>     village cause if it is affordable the university will give me a
>>     fund and i will implement it or i also work in the university and
>>     they told me that they will give me a fund if it is a good design
>>     as they give me before to implement the solar water pump that
>>     done on kollela village with my adviser.As the village have high
>>     solar radiation and wind speed it is better to use solar and wind
>>     as a source of energy to electrify the village but for cooking it
>>     is better to use gasifing stove.
>>     we done a  solar water pump project with my adviser before and he
>>     told me to design a Microgrid for that village to help the
>>     villager get light and other facility so when i design the
>>     cooking part with solar energy it is very costy  cause for
>>     cooking only it needs 3kw panel for each household . they cant
>>     afford it and also we will not get that much fund to support the
>>     village.
>>      after i done the design and the all thing the university see the
>>     paper and give us a fund for it or we will find the fund as we
>>     get for the water  pump too .so i plan to get good information
>>     regarding to gasifing stove.
>>
>>     kindles regrades
>>     Melkamurural
>>
>>     On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu
>>     <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>         Dear Melkamu,
>>
>>         There are various people willing to assist you.   It would be
>>         very useful if you could provide more information about
>>         yourself and your project.   We do not know your skill
>>         levels, access to equipment, budget, or the size of your
>>         rural electrification project (or even about you supply of
>>         biomass).
>>
>>         Also, you said "gasfier stove" which can be quite different
>>         from "gasifier", especially when you started discussing
>>         electricity generation.
>>
>>         Please reply to the Listserv so that the maximum number of
>>         people can better understand you situation and your needs.
>>         Then we can assist better.
>>
>>         Paul
>>
>>         Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>>         Email:psanders at ilstu.edu  <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>    
>>         Skype: paultlud      Phone:+1-309-452-7072  <tel:%2B1-309-452-7072>
>>         Website:www.drtlud.com  <http://www.drtlud.com>
>>
>>         On 11/4/2014 2:36 AM, Melkamu Nibret wrote:
>>>         Dear Everyone
>>>         I am Melkamu from Ethiopia and i am doing a project on rural
>>>         electrification using solar ,wind and biomass and i want to
>>>         do a gasifier stove for a household in rural village i read
>>>         a lots of paper done on gasifier stove is their any
>>>         recommendation that u told me before i start to manufacturer
>>>         the model .
>>>         kindles regrades
>>>         Melkamu
>>>
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