[Gasification] Gasification Digest, Vol 67, Issue 3

Toby Seiler seilertechco at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 23 14:11:49 CDT 2016 

Saturated means the gas contains all the water that it can hold and when it is put in contact with your wood, will condense into liquid water and give up 970 btu per pound of water that condenses.     

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Dear Rolf,Leland,Nicolo
thank you for your replies,
but still I got no clue what "saturated" genset exhaust looks like from
physics point of view...
Anybody?
Best Regards
Dimitris

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> Hello all.
> Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven genset in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)?
> I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere.
> What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or absolute humidity (gr/kgr)?
>
> Best Regards
> Dimitris
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> Hallo Dimitris,
>
> no idea if syngas exhaust behaves differently from diesel exhaust, but the latter comes out at around 400 ?C and can be very well used to dry wet biomass. It should be mixed with ambient air so as not to pyrolize or even ignite the biomass.
> I once spoke to people from Central America who had a very simple setup:
> A sort of tower where the raw biomass is filled in at the top and the exhaust/air comes from below in counterflow.
> They said that the humidity was driven off to the top and dry stuff could be taken out below.
> Seems simple...
>
> best regards
>
> Rolf
>
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> "DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES" <dimitris at kokaras.gr> wrote:
>
>> Hello all.
>> Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven genset in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)?
>> I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere.
>> What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or absolute humidity (gr/kgr)?
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Dimitris
>

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hello
we know we must offer our system
is it ok?


2016-03-23 18:38 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Tzagkas - KOKARAS AND ASSOCIATES <dimitris at kokaras.gr>:

Dear Rolf,Leland,Nicolo
thank you for your replies,
but still I got no clue what "saturated" genset exhaust looks like from
physics point of view...
Anybody?
Best Regards
Dimitris

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>    2. Re: Drying using a syngas genset exhaust (Energies Naturals C.B.)
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> Hello all.
> Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven genset in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)?
> I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere.
> What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or absolute humidity (gr/kgr)?
>
> Best Regards
> Dimitris
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> Hallo Dimitris,
>
> no idea if syngas exhaust behaves differently from diesel exhaust, but the latter comes out at around 400 ?C and can be very well used to dry wet biomass. It should be mixed with ambient air so as not to pyrolize or even ignite the biomass.
> I once spoke to people from Central America who had a very simple setup:
> A sort of tower where the raw biomass is filled in at the top and the exhaust/air comes from below in counterflow.
> They said that the humidity was driven off to the top and dry stuff could be taken out below.
> Seems simple...
>
> best regards
>
> Rolf
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 20:50:01 +0200
> "DIMITRIS TZAGKAS-KOKARAS & ASSOCIATES" <dimitris at kokaras.gr> wrote:
>
>> Hello all.
>> Has anyone ever tried to use the genset exhaust of a syngas driven genset in order to use it in a biomass dryer(rotary or something)?
>> I can read in the literature that the syngas engine?s exhaust is saturated, but I cannot find experimental data anywhere.
>> What does ?saturated? mean in numbers of relative humidity (%) or absolute humidity (gr/kgr)?
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Dimitris
>

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