[Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green building conference

Benjamin Pratt benjamin.g.pratt at gmail.com
Sat Apr 30 15:45:41 CDT 2011


It's RT's term for American's. It used to bother me, but decided If I
couldn't beat him then I'd join him.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Gennaro Brooks-Church
<info at ecobrooklyn.com> wrote:
> What the hell is a murrican? It sounds like an insult to a specific group of
> people.
>
> Gennaro Brooks-Church
> 347-244-3016
> Sent from my phone
>
> On Apr 30, 2011 3:22 PM, "Benjamin Pratt" <benjamin.g.pratt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Be careful on your trip. I've been badly injured on a scooter, and my
>> Dad was killed on a bicycle. Greater mileage isn't worth injury or
>> death. The cause was "Murrican" drivers.
>> Ben
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:46 PM, RE-USE Consulting
>> <go2nacho at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I am disappointed to find that the scooter averages only about 60-65 mpg,
>>> but on the open road and using some bicycling techniques I know I will
>>> try
>>> to get that up to 70mpg and I will track that on
>>> (http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Re-Use-Consulting/168260119870367)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have to get back to packing and planning, but know this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I had to make a trade-off in mpg to provide more help to my clients and
>>> spend more time with them.  Think of it this way, they say that
>>> the materials in a 2000 sq ft home have the embodied energy equal to
>>> 1000's
>>> of gallons of gas (see http://www.deconstructioninstitute.com/calc4.php).
>>> If I help these groups get started and 5 of them go on to deconstruct 100
>>> buildings a year, even after accounting for the materials that are not
>>> saved, the parts of the 500 buildings diverted could equal over 2,000,000
>>> gallons of gas.  Then and only then would I sleep soundly knowing that I
>>> had
>>> made up for the 27-30 gallons of gas the scooter used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Building deconstruction rules....
>>>
>>> Dave Bennink
>>> RE-USE Consulting
>>> dave at decon.us
>>>
>>> www.reuseconsulting.com
>>>
>>> Facebook:
>>> http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Re-Use-Consulting/168260119870367
>>> 360-201-6977
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gennaro Brooks-Church" <info at ecobrooklyn.com>
>>> To: "Green Building" <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>> Cc: Greenbuilding at bioenergylists.org
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 10:14:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green
>>> building conference
>>>
>>> I don't know....moped, scooter....it is a 250cc bike, no? If anything a
>>> 250cc motorcycle gets better mileage than a 250 scooter due to
>>> better aerodynamics. I don't mean to be nit picky but if the object is
>>> green
>>> transportation then isn't a low cc the measure of that, a bicycle being
>>> the
>>> greenest at 0 cc? 250cc is better than 500cc I guess.
>>>  I don't mean to put a negative light on something that is clearly worth
>>> doing and will benefit the planet. Maybe I'm getting stuck on small
>>> details?
>>> Gennaro Brooks-Church
>>>
>>> Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
>>> www.EcoBrooklyn.com
>>> 22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:03 PM, RE-USE Consulting <go2nacho at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 2000 mile scooter trip - I had hoped to use a 50cc at 100mpg, but it
>>>> would
>>>> have meant skipping about half of the groups that I am trying to provide
>>>> free consulting to (due to the slow speed).  I think by definition 50cc
>>>> bikes are 'mopeds'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trying to keep fuel consumption at $100 or less, and I am trying to pin
>>>> down the mpgs for this bike.  I will be tracking that on my Facebook
>>>> page
>>>> for following our progress:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Re-Use-Consulting/168260119870367
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have to fly to my next job after it is over.  There are a dozen out of
>>>> work construction workers expecting me to train them on building
>>>> deconstruction and material reuse so they can get back to work.  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Bennink
>>>> RE-USE Consulting
>>>>
>>>> www.reuseconsulting.com
>>>>
>>>> dave at decon.us
>>>> Facebook:
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Re-Use-Consulting/168260119870367
>>>> 360-201-6977
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Reuben Deumling" <9watts at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Green Building" <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>> Cc: Greenbuilding at bioenergylists.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:23:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green
>>>> building conference
>>>>
>>>> sounds good to me.
>>>> Even scooters aren't what they used to be. I thought 50cc was the
>>>> scooter
>>>> class. What is your anticipated fuel consumption for the trip? Are you
>>>> returning by scooter as well?
>>>>
>>>> Reuben Deumling
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:47 PM, RE-USE Consulting
>>>> <go2nacho at comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  a 250cc scooter!
>>>>
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>> b e n j a m i n p r a t t
>>
>> professor art+design
>> the university of wisconsin stout
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