[Greenbuilding] Greenbuilding Digest, Vol 80, Issue 5

barbara deane-gillett deaneg at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 19 14:02:09 CDT 2017 

i have had great and inexpensive success with a 360 degree curtain above a tub

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Today's Topics:

   1. wall surfaces for open shower? (Reuben Deumling)
   2. Re: wall surfaces for open shower? (Anncha)
   3. Re: wall surfaces for open shower? (David)
   4. Re: wall surfaces for open shower? (Sam Ewbank)
   5. Re: wall surfaces for open shower? (Jason Holstine)
   6. Re: wall surfaces for open shower? (Sacie Lambertson)
   7. Re: wall surfaces for open shower? (David Wentling)


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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:39:03 -0700
From: Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
To: Greenbuilding <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: [Greenbuilding] wall surfaces for open shower?
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I'm working on a newly added upstairs bathroom that is too small to
usefully accommodate a fiberglass stall and would like to experiment with a
wall-less shower that is situated in the corner of the room, so would have
a curtain on two sides. The obvious way to protect the walls would be to
tile them but I am curious if there are other materials one might consider?
The floor will be tiled and I plan to frame and tile a lip to contain the
water running down the inside of the curtain.

Thanks very much.
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:59:24 -0500
From: Anncha <anncha1 at aol.com>
To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] wall surfaces for open shower?
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glass!
On Apr 18, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm working on a newly added upstairs bathroom that is too small to usefully accommodate a fiberglass stall and would like to experiment with a wall-less shower that is situated in the corner of the room, so would have a curtain on two sides. The obvious way to protect the walls would be to tile them but I am curious if there are other materials one might consider? The floor will be tiled and I plan to frame and tile a lip to contain the water running down the inside of the curtain.
>
> Thanks very much.
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:08:40 -0600
From: David <dpwentling at ymail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] wall surfaces for open shower?
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Exhaust ventilation is important!

Open showers in hotels and houses I have stayed were low tiled walls on two sides you could see over. Tilted floor to drain.

David Wentling

> On Apr 18, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I'm working on a newly added upstairs bathroom that is too small to usefully accommodate a fiberglass stall and would like to experiment with a wall-less shower that is situated in the corner of the room, so would have a curtain on two sides. The obvious way to protect the walls would be to tile them but I am curious if there are other materials one might consider? The floor will be tiled and I plan to frame and tile a lip to contain the water running down the inside of the curtain.
>
> Thanks very much.
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 08:53:12 -0400
From: Sam Ewbank <g.l.ewbank at gmail.com>
To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] wall surfaces for open shower?
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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm working on a newly added upstairs bathroom that is too small to
> usefully accommodate a fiberglass stall and would like to experiment with a
> wall-less shower that is situated in the corner of the room, so would have
> a curtain on two sides. The obvious way to protect the walls would be to
> tile them but I am curious if there are other materials one might consider?
> The floor will be tiled and I plan to frame and tile a lip to contain the
> water running down the inside of the curtain.
>
>  Hey Reuben
Tadelakt plaster might be alternative to the tiles.
I've not used it but have read a bit about it. It's a lime based plaster
that is burnished and sealed with oil.
I would imagine that the wall to floor transition would be a critical point.

Sam Ewbank
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:13:11 -0400
From: Jason Holstine <jason at amicusgreen.com>
To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] wall surfaces for open shower?
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Natural Hydraulic Lime (NHL) plaster would probably work since it?s used exterior. Has its own quirks, as anything would.

Might want to crown the floor to a linear drain. And ventilate with a fan w/a condensation sensor.



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Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:53 AM
To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] wall surfaces for open shower?



On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:

I'm working on a newly added upstairs bathroom that is too small to usefully accommodate a fiberglass stall and would like to experiment with a wall-less shower that is situated in the corner of the room, so would have a curtain on two sides. The obvious way to protect the walls would be to tile them but I am curious if there are other materials one might consider? The floor will be tiled and I plan to frame and tile a lip to contain the water running down the inside of the curtain.





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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:09:18 -0500
From: Sacie Lambertson <sacie.lambertson at gmail.com>
To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] wall surfaces for open shower?
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On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Jason Holstine <jason at amicusgreen.com>
wrote:

> Natural Hydraulic Lime (NHL) plaster


?I don't know about using plaster.  In our current home our walls are
drywall plastered over stucco.  In the shower we eventually had to apply an
exterior gloss? paint to waterproof the shower.  (The moisture went into
the walls to the tiles shower base where it became grotty).  In the rest of
the house, a heavy rain sends moisture through the walls.  Bad news all the
way around.  The designer should have known better; a simple felt
application on the exterior walls would have taken care of the problem.

For an open shower in another house I too am looking for suitable shower
walls, something other than tile (to eliminate the eventual inherent grout
cleaning up necessitated with this use).  I've looked into acrylic walls
but these are very expensive, over $500 for a 4x8 sheet, material alone.

Am open to suggests as well.

Sacie
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:08:46 -0600
From: David Wentling <dpwentling at ymail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] wall surfaces for open shower?
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Consider repurposing tempered patio door units, either vertical or horizontal, depending on space dimensions.
Dry glaze with gaskets and metal or recycled plastic trim boards.

Here is one source of glazing gaskets with drawings to assist the design.
http://conservationtechnology.com/building_glazing.html <http://conservationtechnology.com/building_glazing.html>


David Wentling

On Apr 18, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Anncha via Greenbuilding <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org> wrote:


From: Anncha <anncha1 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] wall surfaces for open shower?
Date: April 18, 2017 at 7:59:24 PM MDT
To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>


glass!
On Apr 18, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm working on a newly added upstairs bathroom that is too small to usefully accommodate a fiberglass stall and would like to experiment with a wall-less shower that is situated in the corner of the room, so would have a curtain on two sides. The obvious way to protect the walls would be to tile them but I am curious if there are other materials one might consider? The floor will be tiled and I plan to frame and tile a lip to contain the water running down the inside of the curtain.
>
> Thanks very much.
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