[Estufas] connecting
Richard Stanley
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Mie Jul 24 12:06:04 CDT 2013
El Senor Whittfield,
Good ti be in touch and moving fwd on this...
We had a project in Peu under the Adventist church (we are a non sectarian NGO ourselves) and that, ADRA, project seemed poised to take off. That was in 2001-2 give or take a few months.. It bombed because they never gave any real attention to the marketing of the product. Seems they just wanted to corner production for their members only when the same could have been / were trained to do.../ training widely throughout the alti plano of the department of Cusco. The economics and environmenal conditions were otherwise all set for it to take off. Long story but it tanked…
A very recent start up in Columbia might be of interest: I did not see any women in their three photos (below) it but thats surely to come if ongoing management of money and business is at stake --as its intended to be…
Check with Guatavo Molina for their (Fundacion Progressar's) good and rapidly expanding work in Guatemala. Gustavo Molina <gustavo.molina.desarrollo en gmail.com>
I am also ccying this to Mercedes Urible from Mexico. She is working with us as a volunteer to assist in organising and organising the growing inquiries and projects latin America..
Hasta,
Richard Stanley
www.legacyfound.org
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viz; Richard:
Thanks for our advices.
We used saw dust, paper pulp and rice husk for the briquettes. Next time we are going to taste with different percentages (more binder).
Rafael
2013/7/23 Richard Stanley <rstanley en legacyfound.org>
From: Rafael Restrepo <rafael.restrepo8 en gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Estufas] connecting
Date: July 23, 2013 4:38:45 PM PDT
Rafael,
Thanks for sharing that with us. Nice work on Lee Hite's press too. From what I see of the briquette, however, you may need slightly more binder better infiller try some real fines o charcoal or sawdust powder or really gound up agroresidues. I say this because the briquette seems to be expanding a bit too much out of the mold. This will make a huge difference to heat values and duration. This is easy to implement compared to all the learning you guys have gone through already: Congradulations !
I share this with Gustavo Molina of Fundacion progressar to gain their own insights as well.
Richard Stanley
www.legacyfound.org
Great work on that thoufh
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From: Rafael Restrepo <rafael.restrepo8 en gmail.com>
Date: July 23, 2013 9:19:34 AM PDT
To: Cocinas y Estufas Mejoradas <estufas en lists.bioenergylists.org>
Subject: Re: [Estufas] connecting
Reply-To: Cocinas y Estufas Mejoradas <estufas en lists.bioenergylists.org>
Hi Richard:
I send you some pictures of the briquette trainning in Choco Colombia.
Regards.
Rafael.
2013/7/23 Richard Stanley <rstanley en legacyfound.org>
David,
We have been working in Guatemala for the past year and a half with the Guatemalan Fundacion Progressar, in developing local training capacity, local based briquette production and local equipment supply for locally defined markets of the holey and wholly briquette or "Eco Lena" as it's being called. (Much of that story from our perspective, is covered in the news section of our website www.legacyfound.org)
Our contacts at Fundacion Progressar are;
• Dra Letecia Velasquez Zapeta director of the Fundacion<bpvguatemala en gmail.com>
and
• Gustavo Molina, director of their Environment and Eco Lena program <gustavo.molina.desarrollo en gmail.com>
Their perspective is of course far more detailed and important to your groups understanding of their experience in the real environment and we would invite you to communicate directly with them to learn of their actual experience with Eco Lena, their training and equipment supply capacity and ambitions.
We will be back in Guatemala working with the Fundacion this October but with their now established training capacity, it seems that the technology is poised to expand into the rest of meso America where it can be taken up locally as well in a similar fashion. The Fundacion has already trained about 62 more groups in Guatemala as well as three more in Oaxaca Mexico and has requests for similar work in two other nations in the region. Any viable expansion effort of course presumes that is able to find the right home ie., that it can be connected to situations and like counterpart organizations where it is clearly needed and will likely be accepted and sustained in the local markets.
I look forward to collaboration with you and CEDSOL in the future especially as we begin to acquire language facility and put kiSwahili on the back burner for the time being at least. I think I can say that the Fundacion will have similar interests in expanding its services for and learning from the group as well.
We will be moving down to Nicaragua or a few months to explore possibilities there as well. If you have any recommendations then, please, lets open up a dialogue.
Kind regards,
Richard Stanley
www.legacyfound.org
Ashland Oregon,
NW part of the US part of the Americas
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On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:22 AM, David Whitfield wrote:
Richard,
Qué gusto!
How have you been besides busy? I am a candidate for your knowledge and systems. We are running a GS VER project in Bolivia and Paraguay. Still working our financing but in medium term future I can see briquets being serviceable especially in Paraguay where 40% of URBAN population use leña.
Another topic! We are going a research investigation for GACC on Gender in our project called women as agents of Change in the Andean regions. Any stove or fuel related contacts in Colombia, Ecuador, Peru or Bolivia are welcome.
Thanks
David
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Richard Stanley <rstanley en legacyfound.org> wrote:
David,
We have been working in Guatemala for the past year and a half with the Guatemalan Fundacion Progressar, in developing local training capacity, local based briquette production and local equipment supply for locally defined markets of the holey and wholly briquette or "Eco Lena" as it's being called. (Much of that story from our perspective, is covered in the news section of our website www.legacyfound.org)
Our contacts at Fundacion Progressar are;
• Dra Letecia Velasquez Zapeta director of the Fundacion<bpvguatemala en gmail.com>
and
• Gustavo Molina, director of their Environment and Eco Lena program <gustavo.molina.desarrollo en gmail.com>
Their perspective is of course far more detailed and important to your groups understanding of their experience in the real environment and we would invite you to communicate directly with them to learn of their actual experience with Eco Lena, their training and equipment supply capacity and ambitions.
We will be back in Guatemala working with the Fundacion this October but with their now established training capacity, it seems that the technology is poised to expand into the rest of meso America where it can be taken up locally as well in a similar fashion. The Fundacion has already trained about 62 more groups in Guatemala as well as three more in Oaxaca Mexico and has requests for similar work in two other nations in the region. Any viable expansion effort of course presumes that is able to find the right home ie., that it can be connected to situations and like counterpart organizations where it is clearly needed and will likely be accepted and sustained in the local markets.
I look forward to collaboration with you and CEDSOL in the future especially as we begin to acquire language facility and put kiSwahili on the back burner for the time being at least. I think I can say that the Fundacion will have similar interests in expanding its services for and learning from the group as well.
We will be moving down to Nicaragua or a few months to explore possibilities there as well. If you have any recommendations then, please, lets open up a dialogue.
Kind regards,
Richard Stanley
www.legacyfound.org
Ashland Oregon,
NW part of the US part of the Americas
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