[Gasification] DIY GtL
Rolf Uhle
energiesnaturals at gmx.de
Sun Jan 30 12:39:42 CST 2011
Hallo Brian, Doug and list,
this looks amazing ! The filtering seems to be very good.
You and Doug seem to have experience with stocking producer gas.
May I ask you some questions ?
We have 5 separate houses/cabins on our land , all of them with solar and
individual wood and /or almond shell burning fireplaces .
All of them are hidronic underfloor systems with hot sanitary water tanks .
The distances between these houses make a central water heat distribution
system rather inviable.
We are off grid and run electricitywise on solar, wind and micro hydro.
There is a backup generator slow speed diesel running on WVO.
My idea is to connect all houses to a single gassifier of around 40 -50 kW gas
output and store a few hours gas in a gasometer and have the gassy start and
stop and run at close to full output as the gasometer level demands so as to
give it " an easy life " tarwise.
The clean and cool gas could run through ordinary PE pipes to the individual
houses where it should burn in gas furnaces.
A part of it could run the Listeroid genset which already works in chp mode.
I remember systems like this being built in Switzerland until 30-40 years ago
for large kitchens and heating boilers in hotels and other remote buildings
in the mountains. The manufacturer was located in Horgen on Lake Zurich.
I would have to dive very deep into my old records to find him...
I attended the Germany GEK workshop with Jim last year, but he seems to busy
to have time to spare for me. It is a pity.
Questions:
Do you have a gassifier of that range 40 - 50 kW gas, not engine kW ?
Do you think that after scrubbing the gas could be "compressed " slightly to
300-400 mb and stored in a gasometer ?
Has anybody sent producer gas through PE pipes over 150 m ?
Where do you expect the real difficulties ?
Looking foreward to your answer.
Rolf
Am Sonntag, 30. Januar 2011 18:06:37 schrieb Brian D Paasch:
> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:10 PM, doug.williams wrote:
> > To finger the problem of using industrial scale producer gas, is that
> > most large systems are not tar free, and if you need to compress the gas,
> > technical challenges come thick and fast.
>
> Doug,
>
> Oh goodness yes! We've not been willing to TOUCH the compression challenges
> until we got our gas pretty darn clean. I'm cautiously optimistic with
> where we are at on that task:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNypVoZg3VA
>
> And right now we're planning on three separate compression steps with
> additional filters between each step.
>
> And thanks for the pointer to your archives, I will certainly browse!
>
> -brian
>
>
>
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