[Gasification] Continuing
phillip manske
pdmanske at gmail.com
Wed Jul 20 16:33:34 CDT 2011
P. productus strains available
http://www.atcc.org/ATCCAdvancedCatalogSearch/AllCollectionSearch/tabid/454/Default.aspx
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:24 PM, phillip manske <pdmanske at gmail.com> wrote:
> *This art talks about p. productus, which is relevant to this discussion
> but only the abstract is "free".*
>
>
> Study of gaseous substrate fermentations: Carbon monoxide conversion to
> acetate. 2. Continuous culture
> J. L. Vega, G. M. Antorrena, E. C. Clausen, J. L. GaddyArticle first
> published online: 18 FEB 2004
>
> DOI: 10.1002/bit.260340608
>
> Copyright © 1989 John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
> Issue
> Biotechnology and Bioengineering
> Volume 34, Issue 6, pages 785–793, September 1989
>
>
> The fermentation of gaseous substrates such as CO, H2, and CO2 may be
> performed in a continuous stirred tank reactor, as well as the traditional
> batch reactor. In this article, the conversion of carbon monoxide by
> Peptostreptococcus productus is demonstrated in a stirred tank reactor under
> both mass transfer-controlled and nonmass transfer-controlled conditions.
> Utilizing a non-steady-state procedure, intrinsic rates are evaluated under
> non-mass transfer-controlled conditions in a time period of only 5–6 hours.
> A steady-state procedure was used to evaluate CSTR performance under mass
> transfer-controlled conditions. The mass transfer coefficient was
> calculated, followed by the development of a model to predict CSTR behavior
> for this gas phase substrate.
>
>
> *This is a general art about the other fuel making microbes*
>
>
> Kennes,Article first published online: 20 JAN 2011
>
> DOI: 10.1002/bbb.256
>
> Copyright © 2011 Society of Chemical Industry and John Wiley & Sons, Ltd
> Issue
> Biofuels, Bioproducts and Biorefining
> Volume 5, Issue 1, pages 93–114, January/February 2011
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> Abubackar, H. N., Veiga, M. C. and Kennes,, C. (2011), Biological
> conversion of carbon monoxide: rich syngas or waste gases to bioethanol.
> Biofuels, Bioproducts and Biorefining, 5: 93–114. doi: 10.1002/bbb.256
>
> Author Information
> University of La Coruña, Spain
> Email: Christian Kennes, (Kennes at udc.es)
>
> *Correspondence: Christian Kennes,, Chemical Engineering Laboratory,
> Faculty of Sciences, University of La Coruña, Rúa da Fraga 10, 15008 La
> Coruña, Spain.
>
> Publication History
> Issue published online: 20 JAN 2011
> Article first published online: 20 JAN 2011
> Manuscript Accepted: 6 OCT 2010
> Manuscript Revised: 16 SEP 2010
> Manuscript Received: 29 JUL 2010
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> Keywords:syngas;CO-rich waste gas;biofuel;ethanol;homoacetogens;bioreactors
> Abstract
> Bioconversion of syngas/waste gas components to produce ethanol appears to
> be a promising alternative compared to the existing chemical techniques.
> Recently, several laboratory-scale studies have demonstrated the use of
> acetogens that have the ability to convert various syngas components (CO,
> CO2, and H2) to multicarbon compounds, such as acetate, butyrate, butanol,
> lactate, and ethanol, in which ethanol is often produced as a minor
> end-product. This bioconversion process has several advantages, such as its
> high specificity, the fact that it does not require a highly specific H2/CO
> ratio, and that biocatalysts are less susceptible to metal poisoning.
> Furthermore, this process occurs under mild temperature and pressure and
> does not require any costly pre-treatment of the feed gas or costly metal
> catalysts, making the process superior over the conventional chemical
> catalytic conversion process. The main challenge faced for commercializing
> this technology is the poor aqueous solubility of the gaseous substrates
> (mainly CO and H2). In this paper, a critical review of CO-rich gas
> fermentation to produce ethanol has been analyzed systematically and
> published results have been compared. Special emphasis has been given to
> understand the microbial aspects of the conversion process, by highlighting
> the role of different micro-organisms used, pathways, and parameters
> affecting the bioconversion. An analysis of the process fundamentals of
> various bioreactors used for the biological conversion of CO-rich gases,
> mainly syngas to ethanol, has been made and reported in this paper. Various
> challenges faced by the syngas fermentation process for commercialization
> and future research requirements are also discussed. © 2011 Society of
> Chemical Industry and John Wiley & Sons, Ltd
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> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Thomas Reed <tombreed2010 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Anand
> >
> > My impression is that bacteria adjust to conditions: If you build it,
> they will come.
> >
> > Yes or no?
> >
> > Tom Reed
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr Thomas B Reed
> > President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> > www.Woodgas.com <http://www.woodgas.com/>
> >
> > On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:06 PM, phillip manske <pdmanske at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This is my bacteria. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
> >> My bacteria is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I
> >> must master my life.
> >> My bacteria, without me, is useless. Without my bacteria, I am
> >> useless. I must fire my bacteria true. I must shoot straighter than my
> >> enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me.
> >> I will...
> >> My bacteria and myself know that what counts in this war is not the
> >> rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know
> >> that it is the hits that count. We will hit...
> >> My bacteria is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will
> >> learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its
> >> parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard
> >> it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my
> >> legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my
> >> bacteria clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We
> >> will...
> >> Before God, I swear this creed. My bacteria and myself are the
> >> defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the
> >> saviors of my life.
> >> So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!
> >>
> >> <pdmanske at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> This pathway should be the most simple so its likely a good place to
> >>> start. I'm not certain what to do first. I liked shopping for
> >>> reactors and why not? Shopping is fun. I was unaware there are large
> >>> (1000 gal) glass lined reactors.
> >>>
> >>> Where to start? In my clumsy manner I say get a microscope and then
> >>> the strain ($250 from ATC)
> >>>
> >>> Look at the freeze dried 'crobes under the scope. Should see shoe
> >>> leather plus the "meat" packing that comes with the strain.
> >>> Re animate using only distilled water and examine under scope
> >>> Re animate and add nutrients and look under scope
> >>> See how long that batch lasts
> >>>
> >>> Re animate using nutrients plus extra feed like fructose or yeast
> extract
> >>> This should be enough to keep the culture alive for a regular
> >>> lifetime of the 'crobes.
> >>>
> >>> PV, is this close? Are my techniques sound?
> >>>
> >>> My technique is a combination practical effort plus me releaning lab
> techniques.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not clear on how to do census. You are supposed to sample from
> >>> the quadrants and the center. Anaerobes are supposed to collect away
> >>> from O2 and that means the bottom of the vessel.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know how long that nutrient will last. The CO and CO2 feed is
> >>> like making the 'crobes live on bananas. Bananas are healthy but its
> >>> not nutritious enough for life, hence the vitamin pill like nutrients
> >>> that are necessary. The calories come from the gases, the vitamins
> >>> come from the nutrients.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to hire someone to do this because I'm just gonna bash around
> >>> int he early stages and then likely later on too. Maybe i can get by
> >>> with a consult.
> >>>
> >>> I can't do mcuh until I get my libary card, there is mcuh more
> >>> material to read than what I have collected so far.
> >>>
> >>> Phillip
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Pannirselvam P.V <
> pannirbr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Dea Dr T.Reed and Philip
> >>>> The CO2 and CO from producer gas can provide acetate,
> thus ,
> >>>> there is no need for carbohyrates , this low quality producer gas
> can be
> >>>> upgraded. The system is more solid gas tricking filter bio reactor .
> >>>> Dr Thomas is correct that the mixed bacteria systems can , at
> room
> >>>> temperature solid liquid slurry in know biodigster system the
> reaction
> >>>> he wrote , but let input of CH2O , more CO and CO2 , via adoptation
> need
> >>>> to be done for gas solid biodigestors
> >>>>
> >>>> Unlike conventional bio digestor, there is a need to make
> >>>> the correct mixed bacteria that can make acetate (acids) from gas ,
> then
> >>>> methane is synthesised by hydrogen bacteria via CO water shift to
> >>>> hydrogen, which readily combine with CO to make methane , as well
> as
> >>>> CO2.( At atm pressure , low temperature ), wher as very high temp
> used to
> >>>> make co shift via thermoconversion system
> >>>> The problems with this new system , unlike conventional biodidestor,
> is
> >>>> the bacter cell growth and viability without carbohydrate (CH20)
> ,
> >>>> unlike the system which Dr.Reed has correctly wrotefor the biogas
> >>>> production where ther is also parelel auto catalytics bacteria
> >>>> reproducation .Philip Manske here in his recent post has reported
> thatv the
> >>>> CO make bacterial cell gorwth and viabilit possible .This is very
> >>>> positive good results .Biodigestor bacterial catatyst has the
> problem
> >>>> of useful active life time ,The biocatalysts , microbes ,do not have
> >>>> unlimited life time of activity .Need to be replaced .This is
> considered to
> >>>> be negative point , but can be managed, with economic loss too
> >>>> Instead of separating and upgrading SNG obtained from low
> quality
> >>>> producer gas via bioprocessos , the direct use of this for charcoal
> >>>> gasification can give biochar and high quality syngas for metanol
> or
> >>>> ethanol via bio or thermoconversion .
> >>>> Thus small biorefineray of coupled biotherm process , origionally
> >>>> patended by IGT, USA can be adopted and make posible for CHP
> energy
> >>>> production and methanol Co production as small grid based
> biorefinery.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr Reed , can be consider as origional thinker and father who had
> long
> >>>> time vision of sustainable syngas, methanol frrom biomass and
> bioenergy
> >>>> power .His long time dream can be reality as compared to biomass
> ethanol
> >>>> projects sustainabilty of several waste biomass residues upgrading
> into
> >>>> biopower .As the gasoline , ethanol ,methanol can be well mixed ,
> can go
> >>>> well more sustainable transportation fuel ate present and future
> >>>> For the same yet proven technology are needed , Integrated However
> >>>> the Biotherm process ,CHP and methanol are complex system ,need
> good
> >>>> system design and engineering work from diversified experts, but not
> as
> >>>> such as big petro refinery projects
> >>>> Our lists do have this diversity , dynamic members , thus make
> possible to
> >>>> compare known technology , innovate new one do , get help from experts
> from
> >>>> this list made posible by TOM
> >>>> Some off topics are good , but need not exceed the main topics
> too
> >>>> Your sincerely
> >>>> Panirselvam P.V
> >>>> Brazil
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Thomas Reed <tombreed2010 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Phillip
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The power generation sounds interesting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What is the feed sock for the digester? Carbohydrates?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2 CH2O ===> CH4 + H2O.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A dr, carve in India has built a small digestor that produces all
> the
> >>>>> methane needed to cook the meals.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I suppose a larger digester could supply the electric power too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keep talking...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tom Reed
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dr Thomas B Reed
> >>>>> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> >>>>> www.Woodgas.com <http://www.woodgas.com/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 12:03 PM, phillip manske <pdmanske at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Tom,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Its good to hear from you. I taught ESL in Korea for six years and
> >>>>>> instead of coming back to the US directly, I went to Kiev and stayed
> >>>>>> in East Europe for year. I went to Moldova, Poland and Romania too.
> >>>>>> I lived on the money I saved while in Korea and my Fed government
> >>>>>> pension. I was poor there and I didn't do much but work on a
> website
> >>>>>> that was inspired by my Fed time. I made a large Freedom of
> >>>>>> Information Act program and I did most of the work in cafe's with
> free
> >>>>>> WiFi.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Melitopol is in the Russian half of Ukraine, I generally like the
> >>>>>> Ukies better than the Russians but I think the women are more
> >>>>>> attractive. I've been to Melitopol twice already. No one visits
> >>>>>> Melitopol, its kind of a hole. Anna is an ethnic Russian living in
> >>>>>> Ukraine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://khersongirls.com - that is the agency I recommend. Consider
> >>>>>> all of the others as scams. I've met the owner and I've been to the
> >>>>>> office many times.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you want to get involved with my "Gold" project you are welcome.
> >>>>>> Its gonna take some money but not much. My investor advisor says to
> >>>>>> make the lab reactor and then the GEK scale reactor. I think the
> lab
> >>>>>> reactor will look like this...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.chemglass.com/product_view.asp?pnr=CLS-1404
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't want to appear as a Johnny come lately into biofuels but it
> >>>>>> kind of looks that way. I was an electrican in the navy a long time
> >>>>>> ago and I said I'd return to power generation if the things were
> >>>>>> right. The concept is complicated, the practice is easy. Once the
> >>>>>> gens run, there is no work to do. You just need to check the
> engines
> >>>>>> twice a day and that takes 20 minutes max each time. You really
> have
> >>>>>> the whole day off for the next fifteen years if you get a contract.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's whats up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Phillip
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Thomas Reed <
> tombreed2010 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> So, do you have an office in Melitopol? Looks like it's close to
> the
> >>>>>>> black sea.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tom
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dr Thomas B Reed
> >>>>>>> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> >>>>>>> www.Woodgas.com <http://www.woodgas.com/>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:25 PM, phillip manske <pdmanske at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Dr. Reed,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the concern. I had to pay bills for two months and
> then I
> >>>>>>>> needed some cash so I can go marriage agency dates in Ukraine. I
> >>>>>>>> lived in Ukraine for a year so I kinda know whats up. I found a
> woman
> >>>>>>>> there that likes me. She looks like Meagan Fox but she has larger
> >>>>>>>> breasts. She sells cosmetics and lives in Melitopol. I work next
> to
> >>>>>>>> a corporate lake and the lake is feed by storm run off. The lake
> has
> >>>>>>>> some good wildlife and I have taken to turtle rescue when the
> chelons
> >>>>>>>> get stuck in the drainage pipes. I got ten already. I have a
> snapper
> >>>>>>>> hatchling and hand sized softshell on a shelf by my desk.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's pretty cool Phil but it has nothing to with biomass.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't talk about gasifiers here because I don't know Jack.
> >>>>>>>> Sometimes you just need to shut up and listen.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yea so I decided I should read about the matter.
> >>>>>>>> This book is great.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> http://www.amazon.com/Transportation-Biofuels-Production-Biodiesel-Chemistry/dp/1849730431
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I got an eCopy if you want to see the relevant material. The
> methane
> >>>>>>>> part looks way doable and in fact I'm slowly working on that. I
> found
> >>>>>>>> sciencedirect.com which has a great index and all of the papers
> on the
> >>>>>>>> matter are availalbe for free at the uni library but I don't have
> my
> >>>>>>>> Indiana drives lic/ID yet so its another two weeks. The papers
> come
> >>>>>>>> to $4500 if I have to pay.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I wrote an executive summary for someone at GoBig and I after I
> sent
> >>>>>>>> that off they asked for an executive summary and asked a few other
> >>>>>>>> questions. I made a good post at GEK and I got ass kissy with Mr.
> >>>>>>>> Mason trying to amend my earlier offences.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Whats up with you Tom?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Warmest Regards
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Phillip
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Phillip Manske
> >>>>>>>> 195 w Puetz Rd h-114
> >>>>>>>> Oak Creek WI, 53154
> >>>>>>>> pmanske at afuels.net
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alchemy Fuels Executive Summary
> >>>>>>>> Saturday, July 16, 2011
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Energy Policy Act of 2005 has mandated that investor owned
> >>>>>>>> utilities must provide a certain amount of the energy they provide
> >>>>>>>> must be sourced from renewable sources. This amount has been
> >>>>>>>> regulated to grow both now and in the future. To date, wind and
> solar
> >>>>>>>> sources have been providing most of this energy while biomass
> sourced
> >>>>>>>> energy has lagged. Utilities have been rejecting new applications
> for
> >>>>>>>> wind and solar energies while courting biomass providers as many
> slots
> >>>>>>>> are still open. Alchemy has determined a course to make low cost
> >>>>>>>> biofuel to fulfill these requirements is a realistic and
> profitable
> >>>>>>>> goal.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> After reviewing scientific literature on the matter I, (working as
> >>>>>>>> Alchemy Fuels) have decided that a two stage reactor designed to
> make
> >>>>>>>> methane is the most efficient route to a biofuel called “biogas”.
> >>>>>>>> This method was developed early in the biofuels research efforts
> and
> >>>>>>>> then abandoned in favor of ethanol and other more lucrative
> >>>>>>>> transportation fuels. Methane is a well founded and well
> functioning
> >>>>>>>> fuel for generators designed to work with natural gas. This
> process
> >>>>>>>> is well reviewed and appreciated by the scientific community for
> its
> >>>>>>>> ease use and lack of exotic requirements. It can be described as
> a
> >>>>>>>> methane digester without the required tons of manure feedstock.
> The
> >>>>>>>> research was pioneered by a scientist named Gaddy who founded a
> >>>>>>>> company called BRI. The process is referred as the microbial
> catalyst
> >>>>>>>> cellulosic fuel pathway.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The process uses the output from gasifiers that use wood mass as a
> >>>>>>>> feedstock. A handful of gases are provided by the gasifier with
> the
> >>>>>>>> most important being carbon monoxide and the lesser gases being
> >>>>>>>> hydrogen, carbon dioxide and methane. All of the gasses are used
> in
> >>>>>>>> the process. The first stage of the process uses a bacteria
> called p.
> >>>>>>>> productus that uses the CO for growth and CO2 for the production
> of
> >>>>>>>> acetate which is the feedstock for the second and final stage
> where a
> >>>>>>>> bacteria called m. barkeri uses the acetate and hydrogen to make
> >>>>>>>> methane. Methane, unlike ethanol , does not need distilling which
> >>>>>>>> saves considerable effort, energy and money.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The market for the gas or gas use comes from the aforementioned
> lack
> >>>>>>>> of biomass energy providers. Contract length is from 10 – 20
> years,
> >>>>>>>> amount of sale is typically 800 kilo watts per hour and the
> >>>>>>>> compensation is from $.10 - $.15 per Kw hour. Providers are
> >>>>>>>> typically allowed to provide 24 hours a day. Demand may vary but
> >>>>>>>> demand is typically strong. Biogas contracts are generally
> designed
> >>>>>>>> for methane digesters but this type of process meets the legal
> >>>>>>>> definition of biogas even without the $1 million digester.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is a niche market but it can provide excellent returns and a
> >>>>>>>> number of contracts can be signed simultaneously. Sales are
> assured,
> >>>>>>>> no distribution network is required. Plants like this operate at
> a
> >>>>>>>> technician level and not an engineer or scientist level. There
> are
> >>>>>>>> few critical points that may induce failure. The required
> insurance
> >>>>>>>> is difficult to get but I have found a provider and at least one
> work
> >>>>>>>> around method.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Plants should be located near the biomass source to save money on
> >>>>>>>> transportation and when the gas is made, it can be shipped at much
> >>>>>>>> less expense to the generating facilities . The plants will be
> >>>>>>>> filled with wood biomass, gasifiers and vats that look like
> >>>>>>>> microbrewery vats.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Being averse to large expenditures, I recommend a modest approach
> to
> >>>>>>>> first make a five gallon reactor using bottled gas, then a system
> >>>>>>>> using a small gasifier and then finally a system scaled to produce
> >>>>>>>> fuel at the rate to meet the 800 kwh limit.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The described process above is worth study and investment. The
> >>>>>>>> science is sound, the investment and risk is small, operating
> overhead
> >>>>>>>> is very low and sales are guaranteed. It appears margins should
> be
> >>>>>>>> very wide unlike typical margins that are available to investors.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Questions may be directed to me at the email address above.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Phillip Manske
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Thomas Reed <
> tombreed2010 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Phil
> >>>>>>>>> I haven't heard your name for.a decade or so. What cooks in
> biomass?
> >>>>>>>>> Tom Reed
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dr Thomas B Reed
> >>>>>>>>> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> >>>>>>>>> www.Woodgas.com <http://www.woodgas.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2011, at 7:04 PM,
> >>>>>>>>> "pbadger at bioenergyupdate.com"<pbadger at bioenergyupdate.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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