[Gasification] Continuing

[Mark Ludlow]

So Philip, once you can grow trillions of Peptostreptococcus productus,
where are you? They take your useable CO and convert it into CO2 and
acetate. Is this what you're after?

Mark

 

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[mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of phillip
manske
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:57 AM
To: david at h4c.org; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Continuing

 

Hi all, 

 

Until I get my library card, I'm gonna be quiet.  That will be little more
than a week.

 

I have every intention of not digesting and every intention of operating the
reactors according to published papers.  Digestion is a sloppy process and
digestate is very difficult to come by and manage.  I'm not interested in
moving 10 tens of slop either in or out every day.  No, just no.

 

The gasifer provides reliably with no waste afterward, the exact right
bacteria will act in the exact right way.  I'm not going to make a reactor
and then leave the top off for a week and hope the right bacteria shows up.m
That sounds counter productive.

 

There are very explicit instructions on the matter and I intend on following
them.  

 

Peptostreptococcus productus or bust.

 

Phillip

 

  

 

 


 

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:37 AM, David <david at h4c.org> wrote:


Dr. Reed,


On 7/20/2011 12:27 PM, Thomas Reed wrote: 

Dear Phil and all
 
Phil seems concerned about getting the "right" bacteria.  My impression is
"if you vuildmit, they will come". 

 

Anaerobic life has proven ubiquitous, indeed, so wherever conditions are
right-- a biogas digester, a stagnant pond, one's own gut-- anaerobes indeed
"show up". One may want to gather inoculates from various sources-- cow
manure, ground up termites-- and put those things in the digester, but it is
not certain that will assist in producing more biogas. Regardless, given
that the digester will be a very complex ecosystem exposed to repeated
inoculations with incoming material, there is little point in trying to
arrange things so that the "livestock" are restricted to a particular set of
chosen species. It might be done, but it would require sterilizing incoming
material, etc., and it's not clear all that can take place and still have
the system be net positive for energy, or indeed anything like as net
positive as a "fill and forget" system.



d.

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