[Gasification] Tar Processing

[Thomas Reed]

Dear PP

Glad to have a first instance of a diesel fuel from improved pyrolysis, followed by esterification.  (I hope you will get a gas chromatograph analysis).  I wonder if there are also ethers (R-O-R) formed.  

I drive a VW TDI diesel, best car I ever owned.  

Tom Reed

Dr Thomas B Reed
President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
www.Woodgas.com

On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:16 AM, "Pannirselvam  P.V" <pannirbr at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Dear   Ant and all list members 
> 
>     From rapid  pyrolysis oil from sugqr cane bagasse , syntheticoil called  bioflex oil  was made in lab scale in Brazil from the aqueous part with ethanol, they would form esters using  catalyst known of organic Fisher synthesis with significant yield  and the quality of  very good quality  gasoline ; This oil  can be also used  as fuel in diesel engine .The yield  is significant  around  25 porcent of Bio oil; This not  obtained from Tar distillqtion , but  this organic green chemical  can be also applied to the tar distilled products obtained by tar processing 
> 
> Pannirselvam P;V
> Brazil
> 
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Arnt Karlsen <arnt at c2i.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 07:35:32 -0400, Thomas wrote in message
> <5B63E130-CC20-44AE-9516-A2610117681E at gmail.com>:roved
> 
> > Dear ADK and all
> >
> > AD KARVE has an interesting idea here.  I doubt if he or I have the
> > equipment to follow it up, but hope some others here may do so.
> >
> > When you tear the lignin and celluloses in wood apart during
> > pyrolysis, you briefly have a lot of VERY reactive species (free
> > radicals) desperately looking for partners.
> 
> ..that makes a lot of sense, and helps explain
> my tar vapor flare performance. :o)
> 
> > If they were supplied with a surplus of attractive partners, they
> > would make many attractive combinations, some commercial today, and
> > probably many others that would be attractive if available.
> >
> > If the diluent partner was methanol or ethanol, they would form
> > esters (perfumes) ethers, and many other interesting compounds that
> > I'm not enough organic chemist to list.
> >
> > I hope someone will give it a try...
> 
> ..bubbling those tar vapors thru soap water and waste oil, creates an
> amazingly stable emulsion with a 2 year shelf life IME, we made half
> a dozen barrels that I understand the City of Stavanger took good care
> of then they tore down the building around our experimental backyard.
> 
> ..mixed a wee bit of my goo with saw dust, sand and dirt to clean up a
> wee driveway oil slick spill, the problem was it also ate the asphalt.
> 
> >
> > Tom Reed
> >
> > Dr Thomas B Reed
> > President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> > www.Woodgas.com
> 
> 
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