[Gasification] Producer Gas Engine Paper

[Thomas Reed]

Dear Rolf

Just checking, is UVO, used vegetable oil?

I have a new TDI Jetta.  Do you think it could handle it?

There is more H in straight diesel than VO.  Maybe the H is mre labile in VO.

Puzzled...

Tom Reed

Dr Thomas B Reed
President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
www.Woodgas.com

On Jun 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Rolf Uhle <energiesnaturals at gmx.de> wrote:

> F.w.i.w,
> our Opel Astra prechamber (idi) Diesel runs on at least 50 % UVO and it makes 
> a difference!
> Even 10 % of it in normal diesel gives a notable higher torque and smoother 
> running.I attribute this to the hydrogen content of the vegoil which 
> preignites the slower long carbon diesel.
> You have the same effect with those hydrolizers peopel sell as fuel savers for 
> Otto and Diesel engines, I have been told.
> 
> salut
> QRolf
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2011 21:23:54 schrieb GF:
>> Regarding H2 as an accelarent. for the power stroke of an IC.
>> I have read that some research regarding the detonation of fuel air
>> mixtures, using the addition of metal catalyst's permanently attached to
>> the piston or cylinder walls, This accomplished  a high temperature
>> reaction which provides "extra" hydrogen derived from steam. This being a
>> development originating from research carried out on WW 2 fighter aircraft
>> engines, to obtain a power boost during combat operations,  including the
>> injection of a water/methanol mix during the required "boost" period. It
>> now seems that we are to have this mixture imposed by Government mandate 
>> without the "catalysts" to run our gasoline engines, Perhaps we should all
>> use platinum tipped spark plugs to help with the reaction. All thanks to
>> the corn lobby.
>> 
>> GF
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>
>> To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'
>> <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org> Cc: 'Sridhar Gururaja Rao'
>> <srigrao14 at gmail.com>; gasification <gasification at bioenergylists.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 12:09 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Producer Gas Engine Paper
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tom, Sridhar,
>> 
>> Is part of the solution to make producer gas with more hydrogen in it?
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> From: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>> [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
>> Reed Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 PM
>> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
>> Cc: Sridhar Gururaja Rao; <gasification at bioenergylists.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Producer Gas Engine Paper
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Eric and all
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You commented on the lack of knock in engines running on producer gas.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Octane of a fuel turns out to be 10x the compression ratio at which the
>> engine will knock on a fuel in that engine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Typical gasoline engines today have a CR of 8.5 and won't knock on 85
>> octane gasoline, but will knock on 80 octane gasoline.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Small planes typically demand high test gasoline 100 octane and have a CR
>> of 10:1.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It is important to use the highest CR that a fuel will support.  Both power
>> AND efficiency increase linearly with CR.   I believe the octane of
>> producer gas is over 150, and I have been urging all to raise the CR of
>> engines running PG.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My company, CPC, ran PG in an engine with CR 15 and got no knock and
>> spectacular power and efficiency.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It took five years to get them to do it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tom Reed
>> 
>> 
>> Dr Thomas B Reed
>> 
>> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
>> 
>> www.Woodgas.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "Erin Rasmussen" <erin at trmiles.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sridhar recently forwarded us information about his paper about Producer
>> Gas Engines. It is an interesting paper, and we've posted a link to it
>> from the gasification web site, but you can also get it directly from the
>> publisher with this link.
>> 
>> 
>> G. Sridhar and Ravindra Babu Yarasu (2010). Facts about Producer Gas Engine
>> , Paths to Sustainable Energy, Jatin Nathwani and Artie Ng (Ed.), ISBN:
>> 978-953-307-401-6, InTech,  Available from:
>> http://www.intechopen.com/articles/show/title/facts-about-producer-gas-eng
>> ine
>> 
>> 
>> To sum up, they connected an engine that has been designed to run on
>> producer gas, to a downdraft gasifier, and recording and analyzing the
>> results. There may be some surprises here, like the lack of knock at
>> higher compression ratios, and the information gathering is both sound,
>> and beautifully presented.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Erin Rasmussen
>> TR Miles Techical Consultants Inc.
>> and BioEnergy Discussion Lists
>> erin at trmiles.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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