[Gasification] Gasifier Bed leve sensor info

Greg Manning a31ford at gmail.com
Mon Sep 3 06:01:52 CDT 2012


Instead of trying to find a sensor that will live at extreme temperatures,
(and will most likely fail at the worst possible time), I would suggest
that concentrating on the feedstock consistency and knowing the incoming
moisture level, this way, you can extrapolate the feed rate from the gas
output and spent char amount.

Some things are better done (also wiser and cheaper) doing it "Old School"

"X" feedstock at "Y" moisture level, with a "Z" level of intake air, will
result in a bed depth of "Q", for a length of time "R", this would mean
that "X" amount of feedstock inputted every cycle of "R" will keep the bed
depth at "Q".

The above equation works for the gasifier I build.

Greg Manning




On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 11:33 PM, <pals_136 at indiatimes.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can any one provide information on high temperature bed level
> sensor/indicator. I want to measure the bed height inside the gasifier. To
> make it clear, let me tell you that I am working on a gasifier in which the
> charcoal is being produced continuously online and is continuously fed in
> the reactor for gasification. Now, I want to know the level of the fuel bed
> inside the gasifier reactor so that I can control the flow of the charcoal
> inside the gasifier reactor. The temperature inside the gasifier part is
> around 1150-1200 deg C.
>
> thanks in advance
> regards
> Pals
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> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:27:51 -0700
> From: "Tom Miles" <tmiles at trmiles.com>
> To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'"
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> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Products - Volter
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> Cesar,
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> http://www.volter.fi/technology
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>
>
> The Volter gasifier is very different from the Ankur. It is more like some
> other Finnish gasifiers that grew out of Imbert designs. It has a dry
> filter
> which means the gas will be pretty clean coming out of the gasifier. A
> scrubber is used for cooling and polishing the gas before going to the
> engine. The Ankur uses a direct contact wet scrubber to remove the tars and
> oil. It creates a wastewater that can be a problem. Ankur has probably
> built
> between 2000-3000 gasifiers less than 15 kWe.
>
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>
> Tom
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> From: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
> [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Cesar
> Casanova
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:39 AM
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Products - Volter
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>
> Tom, through this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlbRD3vMtIs
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlbRD3vMtIs&feature=related>
> &feature=related I found this page
> http://renewablesplus.com/project/trang.htm. In in the other hand I was
> browsing in spanish and I found this page:
> http://www.inti.gob.ar/e-renova/erBI/er15.php it indicates that Ankurs
> Cientific from India  (http://www.ankurscientific.com/powergeneration.htm)
> provides this gasifier.
> Are both the same gasifier?
> Cesar
>
> 2012/8/25 Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>
>
> Thanks Cesar.
>
>
>
> How many other small scale CHP gasifiers like Volter are commercially
> available?
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>
> Tom
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> [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Cesar
> Casanova
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 7:23 AM
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Products - Volter
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> Tom, the page is not found, you must begin at  http://www.volter.fi then
> select english
> Best regards
> Cesar
>
> 2012/8/25 Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>
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> http://www.volter.fi/products
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> 30 kWe/80 kWth
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> Tom
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> From: George Shaw <george.shaw at ukf.net>
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> comments....george
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