[Gasification] Alter NRG Waste Gasification

GFWHELL at aol.com GFWHELL at aol.com
Thu Jan 31 21:32:07 CST 2013


Has there been any research into re heating the output gas by ionization?  
many of the unwanted components which form the tars on condensation would be 
 reduced or combined with hydrogen, forming
a cleaner product.The energy input could be augmented with the use of waste 
 heat from the engine.
The exhaust manifold would provide much of the needed heat energy required  
for ionization to take place.
Similar to the heaters used in a  fluorescent tube.
 
GFwhell
 
 
In a message dated 1/31/2013 5:55:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tmiles at trmiles.com writes:

 
As  I have previously posted to the list the electrical power input to the  
AlterNRG process is about 2.5% of the total heat input allowing for the  
conversion to electricity.   In the AlterNRG scheme you can think of  the 
plasma heated bed like a high temperature hot plate that maintains  temperature 
for conversion at the grate and melts the ash fraction which is  recovered 
as slag through the bed. Because you have a hot bed it allows you to  control 
gasification air more closely and make a higher quality gas. It is  still 
fundamentally an updraft gasifier but with an externally controllable  
slagging bed.    
Tom 
 
 
From: Gasification  [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] 
On Behalf Of  Kevin
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:47 AM
To:  Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re:  [Gasification] Alter NRG Waste Gasification

 
Dear  Tom
 

 
Have you  ever seen any figures showing electrical energy consumption  
required per  kw-hr of output gas energy? 
 

 
More  specifically, "Plasma energy In" vs "Chemical energy  Out"...
 

 
Thanks!
 

 
Kevin

 
----- Original  Message ----- 
 
From: _Tom  Miles_ (mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com)  
 
To: _gasifiers at bioenergylists.org_ (mailto:gasifiers at bioenergylists.org)   
 
Sent: Tuesday, January  29, 2013 12:40 PM
 
Subject: [Gasification]  Alter NRG Waste Gasification
 

Plasma  gasification for waste goes to work.   
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(http://www.equities.com/news/headline-story?dt=2013-01-29&val=976528&cat=energy)  
Tom 
  
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