[Gasification] SPAM: Re: newbie question...

Tom Reed tombreed2010 at gmail.com
Wed May 20 12:57:09 CDT 2015


Dear Anand and All:

Thanks for your comments.  I am so glad that the TLUD principle, first used in our cook and camp stoves about 1985, is finding broader uses now.  It depends on the facts:

Wood is comprised of 80% Cellulose and only 20% lignin

When the fuel is lit ON TOP, the cellulose is vaporized:

Celllulose, a great fuel which breaks down about 330 C to form H2 and CO

      C6H10O5 + heat ===> 5 CO + 5 H2 + C

This gas is useful for cooking and running engines.

The 20% lignin in the wood is uniformly converted to charcoal.  

This works on wood at any scale.  The cellulose gas is relatively clean and is fine for cooking as is.  For engine use, passing the gas through a container of previously produced charcoal is sufficient to cool and clean it for engine use.  

Yours for clean cellulose gasification and char production,

TOM REED

Thomas B Reed 
280 Hardwick Rd
Barre, MA 01005
508 353 7841

> On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:01 AM, Anand Karve <adkarve at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Our web site has a section called "Waste disposal technologies".
> Please look in that. However, the photograph only shows the external
> view and not the internal structure.
> Yours
> A.D.Karve
> 
>> On 4/4/15, Pannirselvam  P.V <pannirbr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi  Dr. A.D. Karve
>>     Congratulate your  information about the  your biochar product .If
>> possible  ,  I request you to  the correct  link  to the image  of the
>> pyrolysis  reactor , so  that many many  list member   can have this
>> information   so that   one could see the image
>> 
>>  What  is the use of the pyrogas  you obitained  or  ,just wasted as in
>> your   older design .
>> Do you have made study on mass balance , energy balance , mesaured the
>> quality of the out gas obtained.
>> 
>> I am sure the information  more useful   not to me alone  but also to all
>> in the list
>> 
>> your truely
>> 
>> Pannirselvam  P..V
>>  Natal RN , BraziL
>> 
>> pannirbr at gmail.com
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/101037841043495655482/stream/0d7639c1-418f-47f9-8b73-0a1245d6296f
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [image: --]
>> 
>> Pannirselvam Pagandai V
>> [image: http://]about.me/pannirbr
>> <http://about.me/pannirbr>
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Anand Karve <adkarve at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Dear Tom,
>>> I have developed a charring kiln based on the TLUD principle. It works
>>> quite well with light biomass like dried leaves, twigs, coconut husk,
>>> dried sugarcane leaves etc. About 50 of these kilns are already in use
>>> all over India and a few even in Germany. I haven't tested it on wheat
>>> straw because wheat is not grown in our area, but I think it should
>>> work. You can see the photograph on our web site www.samuchit.com
>>> Yours
>>> A.D.Karve
>>> ***
>>> Dr. A.D. Karve
>>> 
>>> Chairman, Samuchit Enviro Tech Pvt Ltd (www.samuchit.com)
>>> 
>>> Trustee & Founder President, Appropriate Rural Technology Institute
>>> (ARTI)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com> wrote:
>>>> Carbonizing wheat straw  is a challenge. It is very low yield. The
>>>> straw
>>>> itself contains enough air to support smoldering combustion. While it
>>>> is
>>>> likely that the terra preta soils in Brazil were partly from smoldering
>>>> grasses the yield in char would have been very low. Having said that it
>>> is
>>>> both possible and desirable to carbonize grasses. Straw gasification is
>>> just
>>>> harder to control.  Some big bale size batch carbonizers have been
>>> developed
>>>> in Australia. A small stale externally heated carbonizer was developed
>>>> by
>>>> ARTI in India.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What scale or capacity are you looking for? Our biochar bloggers on
>>>> Yahoo
>>>> may be helpful.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tom Miles
>>>> 
>>>> www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org
>>>> 
>>>> www.biochar.bioenergylists.org
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Gasification
>>>> [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org]
>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of T. GILL
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 7:02 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
>>>> Subject: SPAM: Re: [Gasification] newbie question...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking for a design for a  pyrolysis unit to convert hay (from
>>> wheat)
>>>> into bio-char.
>>>> 
>>>> Is it possible to convert the hay into bio-char with out using any
>>> external
>>>> fuel such as coal or gas?
>>>> 
>>>> Is it possible to use the hay as a fuel for slow pyrolysis.
>>>> 
>>>> please give you feed back.
>>>> 
>>>> Terrey Gill
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jeff Davis <jeffdavis0124 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think Tom has a methane list somewhere. Maybe:
>>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org
>>>> 
>>>> Pyrolysis gas can have a lot of tar in it. What is your plans for that?
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> ______________________________________________
>>>> "Once an owner has got used to charcoal gas he will never revert to the
>>> more
>>>> expensive fuels", Geo Bray
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 5:43 PM, "hugh" <hugh at austrop.org.au> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just joined .. and have been interested in gas from wood pyrolysisfor
>>> quite
>>>> a while - but also in methane from bio-digestion (small scale) .. and
>>>> haven't been able to find a suitable group
>>>> 
>>>> Does anybody have some suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Hugh
>>>> 
>>>> (Dr) Hugh Spencer
>>>> Australian Tropical Research Foundation
>>>> Cape Tribulation Tropical Research Station
>>>> PMB 5 Cape Tribulation Qld.
>>>> 
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> 
> -- 
> ***
> Dr. A.D. Karve
> 
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> 
> Trustee & Founder President, Appropriate Rural Technology Institute (ARTI)
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