[Gasification] [Stoves] Request for proposals: Medical Waste Incinerator for Humanitarian Emergencies from Innocentive

Greg Manning a31ford at gmail.com
Sun Sep 6 16:49:55 MDT 2015


Jason, Paul, Michal, and and list.

Jason, the one thing I would like to point out in your closing comments is
this >

Even mainstream science can be wrong (eg: tectonic plates moving...) but
then again, just try and get them to correct themselves.... THAT is the
hard part....

In the case of the Fukashima Disaster... Japan didn't "move" 3 feet, the
earth's circumference increased 3 feet.... there IS a difference between
the two.

did someone say "Rorschach Test" ? oops, I let the cat out of the
bag..........

Greg Manning

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason <urepedese at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> you are quite correct to point out about reading the fine print. For the
> same reasons of compromising my intellectual property rights I did not
> enter the woodstove retrofit challenge.
> http://www.pscleanair.org/priorities/woodheating/woodstoveprogram/Pages/WSChallenge.aspx
>
> This was all explained to them in length, both in email and on the phone.
> That is quite unfortunate because none of the finalists have combustion
> improving technology, which is the category my IntensiFire falls into, but
> simply different ways of dealing with stack emissions.
>
> The prize of more testing didn't appear to be helpful in pushing the
> technology toward certification either, testing is no good without an
> objective to meet. I still have your counsel in my head Paul regarding
> testing.
>
> On a more philosophical note I will say that this scenario highlights the
> weakness of science, considered by many to be the holy grail of
> civilisation as we know it. A contest, or a stove test, is a bit like a
> science experiment. The outcome of an experiment can only be as good as the
> person that designed that experiment.  Add in a good dose of genuflection
> and you have a new established "fact" or "winner" that could in fact be
> highly questionable.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Jason
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
>> To all,
>>
>> If you are considering doing this, you should first check the details
>> about what you are giving up if you should happen to win.   This is akin to
>> the Virgin Earth Challenge.   THEY end up with a set of rights and the
>> proposer gets some money.   But if you do not win, they still have some
>> lingering rights that you might not like.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu
>> Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
>> Website:  www.drtlud.com
>>
>> On 9/6/2015 6:15 AM, Michal Usowicz wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>> I thought this might be right up your guys' alley.  Innocentive is a
>> website that organizations can post design challenges with rewards for
>> proposals that they accept.  There was recently a post for a portable,
>> durable medical waste incinerator.  Check it out if you think you may have
>> a good contribution to make.
>>
>> https://www.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9933340
>>
>> NOTE: I have nothing to do with this proposal/request.  I'm just
>> forwarding it to you guys.
>>
>> Best,
>> Michal Usowicz
>>
>>
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