[Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers

Tue Apr 18 02:56:05 CDT 2017

Hello Jess,

thanks for your interest, we have known APL for 4 years now
we purchased from them a demo pilot back in 2013 and lost 30.000 Euros
because they cancelled our order 2 weeks before delivery

at that time they had paramount gas cleaning problems, I cannot comment the
unit
you refer to because we do not know it , how ever we have a
mathlab hologram formula to  quick check
efficiency of any gasifier, it is based on CFD computerized Fluid dynamcs
( Denver protocol). we would be pleased to analyse the system if you give
 us
some tech specifications + brochure ...

The efficiency and quality is normally checked in 2 phases, gasifier outlet
and filter system outlet
we have a US Made patent pending gas analyser, it pings the syngas 6 times
per minute
and reports the matrix, after the filter we have a debimeter ( Mass flow
sensor ) with integrated IR dust sensor measuring the particulates

[image: Immagine incorporata 1]

another good measure is the lub oil optical inspection glass, on the cogen
engine, as you know MP 2 cannot be easily detected, but over time MP2 sets
down in the lub oil and if it gets too dark is time for motor cleansing

regards

Nicolo

2017-04-18 9:29 GMT+02:00 Jess Christman <jess at blackislefirewood.co.uk>:

> HI Nicolo,
>
> I have been investigating small scale chp gasifiers for a year now.
>
> Any thoughts on the all power labs pp20?
>
> Yours,
>
> Jess Christman
>
> On Tue, April 18, 2017 8:04 am, Nicolò Cerni wrote:
> > you are welcome Tom,
> >
> > only 4 manufacturers offer certified syngas with low tars ( < than 4
> > mgr/nM3 ) and only very few can process anything else other than strictly
> > selected wood chips here is one we are proud to represent
> >
> > www.pyrogas-gmbh.de
> >
> > The package units you refer to as Spanner had a GM 5,7 motor for years
> > that required complete replacement  after 3/4 years, now they use a new
> USA
> > Made  CHP
> > engine called Origin probably a labelled OEM Product we cannot  trace.
> >
> > our organic biomass gasifier AHT can process different wood waste types
> > and organic matters such as chicken manure
> >
> > regards
> >
> > NC
> >
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> > 2017-04-18 0:26 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>:
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> >
> >> Thanks, Nicolo. It’s good to know about you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I didn’t know there were that many manufacturers in Europe.
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> Tom
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> >> [Gasification] Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> please see our versions
> >>
> >> at www.altair-pyro.com
> >>
> >> new addresses here below
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> >> we are shipping to you our sales docs
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> our prices are adjusted to local markets Levelized costs of energy
> >>
> >> they range from 3.200 to 4.600 Euros x 1 Kwe installed Cogen set power
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> we know all of the gasifiers you mentioned ( Volter is a Spanner user )
> >>
> >>
> >> we have another 12 manufacturers in Europe
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> >> regards
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> >>
> >> NC
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> >> 2017-04-17 23:31 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>:
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> >>
> >> At a wood energy conference in Alaska last week it occurred to me that
> >> the number of small scale “industrial” gasifiers is growing. They are
> >> now available worldwide and there are many reports of good customer
> >> service. Gasifiers that were only available in Europe are now being
> >> installed in North America.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Wood chip and pellet gasifiers in the 40-125 kWe range are now running
> >> 7000 hours or more.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Some suppliers:
> >>
> >>
> >> Spanner <http://www.holz-kraft.de/en/> – 600 units
> >>
> >>
> >> Volter <http://volter.fi/> – 100 units
> >>
> >>
> >> Holzenergie <http://www.holzenergie-wegscheid.de/?lang=EN> – 60 units
> >>
> >>
> >> Burkhardt <http://burkhardt-energy.com/hp604/Wood-Gasifier-V-3-90.htm>
> >> –
> >> 100+ (wood pellets)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> These units all have tight fuel requirements: pellets (Burkhardt) or
> >> dry (13-15% MC), and properly sized fuel for reliable operation. Some
> >> suppliers offer sizing and drying equipment.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> They are all expensive so they require applications where there is high
> >>  value for the heat and the power.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What has been the owner-operator experience of running these systems?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom
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