[Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers

l linvent at aol.com
Tue Apr 18 11:16:39 CDT 2017


It seems that these systems are all the same and have very limited input range, complex control systems, no produced water removal and treatment system where water vapor eats the engine parts from formation of organic and other acids and lowers volumetric efficiency from dilution of the produced gas. There are significant improvements that go beyond these options and allow for much longer life of the engine, highe r output per unit, less drying required and not necessary for pelleting. 

 

 

Sincerely,

Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc. 
+001-505-463-8422 
www.thermogenicx.com
Skype: ltt.invent

 

 

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From: David Murphy <djfmurphy at dodo.com.au>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 8:53 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers


    
Nicolo,
      
      please stop sending me emails to other people.
      
      David Murphy.
      
      On 18/04/2017 5:04 PM, Nicolò Cerni wrote:
    
    
      
        
you          are welcome Tom,
        

        
        
only          4 manufacturers offer certified syngas with low tars ( <          than 4 mgr/nM3 )
        
and          only very few can process anything else other than strictly          selected wood chips
        
here          is one we are proud to represent
        

        
        
www.pyrogas-gmbh.de
        

        
        
The          package units you refer to as Spanner had a GM 5,7 motor for          years that required
        
complete          replacement  after 3/4 years, now they use a new USA Made  CHP          engine called Origin 
        
probably          a labelled OEM Product we cannot  trace.
        

        
        
our          organic biomass gasifier AHT can process different wood waste          types and organic matters
        
such          as chicken manure
        

        
        
regards
        

        
        
NC
        

        
      
      

        
          
            
              
              
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2017-04-18 0:26 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>:
          
            
              
                
Thanks,                    Nicolo. It’s good to know about you. 
                
 
                
I                    didn’t know there were that many manufacturers in                    Europe. 
                
 
                
Tom
                
 
                                
From:                    Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org]                    On Behalf Of Nicolò Cerni
                    Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:08 PM
                    To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and                    gasification <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
                    Subject: SPAM: Re: [Gasification] Small Scale                    Industrial Gasifiers
                
 
                
                  
                    
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please                        see our versions
                  
                  
                    
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we                        are shipping to you our sales docs
                  
                  
                    
 
                  
                  
                    
our                        prices are adjusted to local markets Levelized                        costs of energy 
                  
                  
                    
they                        range from 3.200 to 4.600 Euros x 1 Kwe                        installed Cogen set power
                  
                  
                    
 
                  
                  
                    
we                        know all of the gasifiers you mentioned ( Volter                        is a Spanner user )
                  
                  
                    
we                        have another 12 manufacturers in Europe
                  
                  
                    
 
                  
                  
                    
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2017-04-17 23:31 GMT+02:00 Tom                      Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>:
                    
                      
                        
                          
At a wood energy                            conference in Alaska last week it occurred                            to me that the number of small scale                            “industrial” gasifiers is growing. They are                            now available worldwide and there are many                            reports of good customer service. Gasifiers                            that were only available in Europe are now                            being installed in North America. 
                          
 
                          
Wood chip and pellet                            gasifiers in the 40-125 kWe range are now                            running 7000 hours or more. 
                          
 
                          
Some suppliers: 
                          
Spanner – 600 units
                          
Volter                            – 100 units
                          
Holzenergie                            – 60 units
                          
Burkhardt – 100+ (wood                            pellets)
                          
 
                          
These units all have                            tight fuel requirements: pellets (Burkhardt)                            or dry (13-15% MC), and properly sized fuel                            for reliable operation. Some suppliers offer                            sizing and drying equipment. 
                          
 
                          
They are all expensive so                            they require applications where there is                            high value for the heat and the power.
                          
 
                          
What has been the                            owner-operator experience of running these                            systems? 
                          
 
                          
Tom  
                          
 
                          
 
                          
 
                          
 
                        
                      
                      

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