[Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers
Paul Anderson
psanders at ilstu.edu
Tue Apr 18 13:57:22 CDT 2017
Tom M. and Tom T., and all,
What arer the sizes (kWe) (or some other measurement??) of these
units? Big difference if discussing 5 kWe or 25 or 100 or larger. My
interest is in sizes under 25 kWe.
Paul
Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: psanders at ilstu.edu
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On 4/18/2017 11:16 AM, l wrote:
> It seems that these systems are all the same and have very limited
> input range, complex control systems, no produced water removal and
> treatment system where water vapor eats the engine parts from
> formation of organic and other acids and lowers volumetric efficiency
> from dilution of the produced gas. There are significant improvements
> that go beyond these options and allow for much longer life of the
> engine, highe r output per unit, less drying required and not
> necessary for pelleting.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
> Thermogenics Inc.
> +001-505-463-8422
> www.thermogenicx.com
> Skype: ltt.invent
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> From: David Murphy <djfmurphy at dodo.com.au>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
> <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
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> Subject: Re: [Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers
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> Nicolo,
>
> please stop sending me emails to other people.
>
> David Murphy.
>
> On 18/04/2017 5:04 PM, Nicolò Cerni wrote:
>
> you are welcome Tom,
>
> only 4 manufacturers offer certified syngas with low tars ( < than
> 4 mgr/nM3 )
> and only very few can process anything else other than strictly
> selected wood chips
> here is one we are proud to represent
>
> www.pyrogas-gmbh.de <http://www.pyrogas-gmbh.de>
>
> The package units you refer to as Spanner had a GM 5,7 motor for
> years that required
> complete replacement after 3/4 years, now they use a new USA Made
> CHP engine called Origin
> probably a labelled OEM Product we cannot trace.
>
> our organic biomass gasifier AHT can process different wood waste
> types and organic matters
> such as chicken manure
>
> regards
>
> NC
>
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> 2017-04-18 0:26 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com
> <mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com>>:
>
> Thanks, Nicolo. It’s good to know about you.
> I didn’t know there were that many manufacturers in Europe.
> Tom
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> *Subject:* SPAM: Re: [Gasification] Small Scale Industrial
> Gasifiers
> Hello
> please see our versions
> at www.altair-pyro.com <http://www.altair-pyro.com>
> new addresses here below
> we are shipping to you our sales docs
> our prices are adjusted to local markets Levelized costs of
> energy
> they range from 3.200 to 4.600 Euros x 1 Kwe installed Cogen
> set power
> we know all of the gasifiers you mentioned ( Volter is a
> Spanner user )
> we have another 12 manufacturers in Europe
> regards
> NC
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> 2017-04-17 23:31 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com
> <mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com>>:
>
> At a wood energy conference in Alaska last week it
> occurred to me that the number of small scale “industrial”
> gasifiers is growing. They are now available worldwide and
> there are many reports of good customer service. Gasifiers
> that were only available in Europe are now being installed
> in North America.
> Wood chip and pellet gasifiers in the 40-125 kWe range are
> now running 7000 hours or more.
> Some suppliers:
> Spanner <http://www.holz-kraft.de/en/> – 600 units
> Volter <http://volter.fi/> – 100 units
> Holzenergie <http://www.holzenergie-wegscheid.de/?lang=EN>
> – 60 units
> Burkhardt
> <http://burkhardt-energy.com/hp604/Wood-Gasifier-V-3-90.htm>
> – 100+ (wood pellets)
> These units all have tight fuel requirements: pellets
> (Burkhardt) or dry (13-15% MC), and properly sized fuel
> for reliable operation. Some suppliers offer sizing and
> drying equipment.
> They are all expensive so they require applications where
> there is high value for the heat and the power.
> What has been the owner-operator experience of running
> these systems?
> Tom
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