[Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful
Johan Swarts
jpes at icon.co.za
Tue Nov 13 14:33:12 CST 2018
Hi Werner
Please forward the prices to me as well please
Johan Swarts
From: Gasification <gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> On Behalf Of Werner Rhein
Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2018 10:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful
Hello Greg,
The chip consumption of the Spanner units are around 1kg / kWh depending on quality of wood.
I have some prices for the Spanner units in Euro but need a bit of time to sort it out.
Regards,
Werner
On Nov 12, 2018, at 20:01, Anderson, Paul <psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu> > wrote:
Greg,
You are stating about 1 pound of biomass per 1 kWe. The data sheet for Spanner is 0.9 kg per hour for 1 kWe (essentially your are half of their biomass consumption).
Do you have an estimate of price (maybe use Canandian costs) for have one unit made (not a DIY unit). Maybe triple that cost to have the price for a model to be sold by a business.
Paul
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From: Gasification <gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org <mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> > On Behalf Of Greg Manning
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2018 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful
Greetings Paul, and List members !
As far as input goes, from 10lbs. An hour and up. Output from, 10 to 30 kwE
The original design had a direct coupled Chevy 350, however I have since changed to a belt driven system, this way "what's available" can be used as a prime mover.
As far as operation, and use, a 2 day training for someone that has very basic skills in mechanics for servicing, and a 1 day for people that will be gathering and/or preperation of the biomass.
As far as replication, off the North American continent a person with oxygen/acetylene torches could build it other than the actual generator.
Greg.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 4:27 PM Anderson, Paul < <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu> psanders at ilstu.edu wrote:
Hi Greg,
Long time since we last communicated directly! You are one of those who “do.”
Please tell us size (input, output, etc.) and the extent that it could be replicated for large numbers of users. How much “skill level” is needed by the users? (YOU are not an average user. Could others operate it if the system was available?)
Paul
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From: Gasification < <mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> On Behalf Of Greg Manning
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 4:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful
Currently Busy with another project, HOWEVER, This post sparks my interest !
I do small scale biomass fired generation.
Greg Manning,
Canadian Gasifier Ltd.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 2:31 PM Anderson, Paul < <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu> psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
Tom and all,
Please guide us (as a start) to understanding the needs and realities of off-grid non-solar power where biomass is plentiful. Are there some key links?
Low-population, forested high latitude areas (less sunlight) without easy boat or train access would seem to be a major geographic region of need. Diesel generators seem to dominate the power generation. What sources confirm these statements, how big is the problem (expressed as numbers of gensets at what sizes), and what is being done about it, and by whom? (Canadians, please reply with your info.)
This should be a significant topic for this Listserv.
Paul
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Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP
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From: Gasification < <mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> On Behalf Of <mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com> tmiles at trmiles.com
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] APL Gasifier in the Microgrid at the 2018 Verge Conference
Are you in a marine air environment? There are many villages that need electricity in low coastal areas..
Tom
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