[Greenbuilding] drying clothes

Tue Aug 30 09:43:56 CDT 2011

Ben, I don't think what you said was completely stupid :)

I think we need to differentiate between:  1- what everyone needs, in  
which case saying: Since so many people don't have
it, it's ok not to have it is wrong, and 2-  So many things we have  
that we can easily do without.  eg: See all the people who manage
just fine without dryers (and if they don't manage well, it's not  
because they don't have dryers.) - so perhaps dryers are not
essential for having a decent and meaningful life...

Racheli.

On Aug 29, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Benjamin Pratt wrote:

> Ok--I admit--that was a really stupid thing to say.
> Ben
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Kathy Cochran
> <kathys_old_house at goldrush.com> wrote:
>> This is a GREAT line!  It made me feel so good when I hung my  
>> sheets out on
>> the clothes line this afternoon!
>>
>>
>>
>> Kathy Cochran
>>
>> San Andreas, California
>>
>>
>>
>> From: greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>> [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf  
>> Of natural
>> building
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 6:50 PM
>> To: Green Building
>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] drying clothes
>>
>>
>>
>> What a wonderful analogy: You don't have a clothes dryer therefore  
>> you must
>> be poor!
>>
>>
>>
>> Does the same apply if I don't have an electric toothbrush, or if the
>> cat-flap isn't automated, or if I actually have to manually push  
>> buttons on
>> my heating system thermostat?
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow I never realised how 'poor' I am! :)
>>
>> But funny how good it feels!
>>
>>
>>
>> In jest...
>>
>> Steve Satow
>>
>>
>>
>> www.naturalbuildingsite.net
>>
>> naturalbuilding at shaw.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2011-08-29, at 5:09 PM, Benjamin Pratt wrote:
>>
>> "Most of the world doesn't use clothes dryers and somehow they  
>> manage."
>>
>> Not a great argument. Much of the people in the world don't have
>> toilets, are malnourished, don't use birth control, don't have access
>> to an education or healthcare, etc ,etc, etc. Most of the people dn't
>> manage--at least their lives could be a whole lot better if  there
>> were any justice in the world....
>> I know those things are a lot more important than wrinkles. I'm just
>> trying to say that telling anyone that they should live as if they  
>> are
>> poor is not realistic.  Or maybe it's what we need to save the
>> planet--A huge worldwide depression leading to disease and a huge
>> reduction of the population
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 2:34 PM, candtcampbell at juno.com
>> <candtcampbell at juno.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have not experimented with different detergents. My clothes are  
>> almost
>>
>> exclusively cotton and the city water probably is medium hard. But  
>> if I were
>>
>> to put a pair of blue jeans out to dry on a rack, I would expect  
>> the jeans
>>
>> to be so stiff when dry that they would almost stand by themselves.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hm. You say you 'would expect' this. And I sense that your  
>> expectation would
>>
>> be that this state of affairs would be unacceptable. I wonder if  
>> you tried
>>
>> it (the drying on a rack, and putting the clothes on afterward) and  
>> report
>>
>> back. Most of the world doesn't use clothes dryers and somehow they  
>> manage.
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't say I couldn't manage. I'm trying to avoid potential  
>> problems
>> before I consider investing in equipment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And badly wrinkled too. Underwear, flannel shirts and T shirts  
>> would fare no
>>
>> better.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've washed all my laundry cold and dried it on the rack everywhere  
>> I've
>>
>> lived. I've also never ironed anything except, very rarely, a  
>> shirt. I don't
>>
>> go to weddings that often. I suppose I've been missing out all  
>> these years,
>>
>> but honestly I'm not sure what the problem is that you've conjured  
>> in your
>>
>> mind.
>>
>>
>>
>> As problems go, wrinkles are pretty insignificant. But if I can  
>> avoid them,
>> I will, just to be socially acceptable.
>>
>>
>>
>> that is not my experience with blue jeans and cotton shirts, and  
>> I've been
>>
>> hanging clothes on the line for a long time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Waldrop, OKC
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are hanging outdoors, I would think that the breeze blowing  
>> would
>> deal well with the wrinkles. But I would also think that you risk  
>> soiling by
>> birds and insects.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nor mine.  Nothing is stiff, and most of the wrinkles hang out.   
>> Most of the
>>> clothes are cotton.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't the clothespins themselves create pinch marks?
>>
>>
>>
>> (If you hang the shirts and pants upside down, and use 2 pins at  
>> the bottom
>>> corners, there's often no need for an iron.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Excellent tip, thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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