[Greenbuilding] Martha Stewart and star wars

Fri Feb 11 10:04:03 CST 2011

I didn't catch Martha or space travel, sounds like everyone has been having
fun this week. 

I don't find the greenbuilding/star travel combination that farfetched. We
are the children of our culture and for Americans the starwars generation
rules. The was the reinvigoration of mythic archetypes for a few generations
and greenbuilding with its concern for meaning and transformation (as well
as post apocalyptic obsession) fits just as well as space travel.

Old bricks have for at least 20 years been worth a 1/3 more than new bricks
given peoples interest in having facades feel timeless (another
anthropological oddity) - but not idiotic.

As for living walls... when I lived in ny I rented an old boarded up
storefront at the base of a tenement between A&B. The door to the back had
been boarded up for decades. When I bust it open I found an avenue of wild
uninhabited lush greenery that stretched for the whole street behind the
tenements. Of course I immediately gentrified it by cutting it down and
making a nice little patio and garden. Not sure the point of that but
something to do with greenspaces in ny and gentrification of ghettos (a form
of space travel at the time).

There is also a rule in permaculture - that if you can care (as in keep
alive over time)a potted plant on your doorstep you can then move off the
doorstep and enlarge your area of governance. Seems to me this both applies
to living walls and space travel.

What is the thing with Martha - thought she was in jail?

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-----Original Message-----
From: greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Gennaro
Brooks-Church
Sent: February 10, 2011 6:45 PM
To: Green Building
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Martha Stewart

I've had living walls and space travel labeled a joke this week on
this list. I remember being told green roofs were a joke. I got called
an idiot just three years ago for salvaging bricks from a dumpster.
Laugh on.

Gennaro Brooks-Church

Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
www.EcoBrooklyn.com
22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Racheli Gai
<racheli at sonoracohousing.com> wrote:
> It's a joke, but a sinister one.  It keeps many people's gaze on places
far
> away, rather than caring
> for the ground under their feet.  It also means that lots of money is
spent
> chasing BS dreams, while
> we have homeless people; untold numbers with not enough to eat, etc. etc.
>
> Racheli.
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Ron Cascio wrote:
>
>> Any kind of escape to another planet is simply a joke. Nothing more.
Let's
>> move on to something accomplishable.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corwyn" <corwyn at midcoast.com>
>> To: "Green Building" <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Martha Stewart
>>
>>
>>> On 2/10/2011 1:47 PM, Gennaro Brooks-Church wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Corwyn my opinion is that we are not at the point where we can
>>>> calculate numbers or make any conclusion about whether we can or can
>>>> not colonize other planets. The technology is not there. But if the
>>>> last century is any indication we could be at a very different
>>>> technological point in another 100 years (whether we are space
>>>> travelling or living in caves is another question).
>>>>
>>>> Also, I never said anything about saving the people on earth. I simply
>>>> said the survival of the human race.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I just think that the idea of murdering 6 Billion people so that
>>> a few elitist humans can escape their self-made Armageddon to go live in
>>> a hell-hole of another planet, isn't worth hoping for.
>>>
>>> Any technology insufficient to help this planet, won't allow anyone to
>>> live on another one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You Kindly,
>>>
>>> Corwyn
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Topher Belknap
>>> Green Fret Consulting
>>> Kermit didn't know the half of it...
>>> http://www.greenfret.com/
>>> topher at greenfret.com
>>> (207) 882-7652
>>>
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