[Greenbuilding] Natura Paint - Any thoughts
JOHN SALMEN
terrain at shaw.ca
Mon Jan 31 20:58:08 CST 2011
That is too bad – I’ve looked through quite a few msds sheets on primers and
the synko was the only one I found. Have used it to minimize top coats of
earthen mixes but here is a basic home recipe that can work on bare drywall
for a simple milk paint that works with better coverage than most commercial
milk paint recipes. I first developed it when my son wanted to help paint
(at about 2) so I wanted something that was friendly and that my dog could
eat. He is now 15 and the basic paint (or a variant) has been used in
numerous homes since by demand (I’m not in the paint business and it has
been a pain). It has to be applied by brush and has a relatively coarse
texture very similar to earthen clay finishes. I have a more sophisticated
recipe at this point that uses casein but this amounts to the same thing
with ingredients that are readily available.
Skim milk powder -12 cups
calcium carbonate (basic chalk) -6 cups
lime -6 cups
kaolin (clay) -5 cups
detergent (dry – non additive laundry type) -1 cup
colourant (davis concrete pigments or stucco pigment – try not to exceed ¼
cup)
7 cups water.
Mix the ingredients dry as accurately as possible and mix well (important)
and then add about ¾ of the liquid mixing with a paint mixer on a drill or
even a hand blender. Will be quite thick but you then have to let it sit
(hour or so) for the clay to slake a little (absorb liquid) and then mix
some more and add the remaining liquid (add more liquid if needed). It needs
to be a relatively thick mix (pea soup- gelatinous type of thing) to brush
effectively. The liquid mix can be kept for a few days (refrigerated) if it
smells sour discard. This is time consuming to paint as the brushing needs
to be done in a very ‘craftspersonlike’ manner to get good results. Use a
cheap bristle (stain) brush.
Can get the basic clay from potters supply. Lime and calcium carbonate from
agricultural supply. Large bags but inexpensive – works out to a few dollars
per gallon. Can substitute sodium silicate (waterglass) for a portion of the
water if you can get that and it creates a slightly harder water resistant
finish. Paint can be temperamental i.e. if the wall temperature is too high
(around light bulbs and heaters) the reaction can result in flaking. Other
than that it results in a very hard finish. Will water spot if sprayed but
generally can be wiped for most marks)
JOHN SALMEN ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN
4465 UPHILL RD,. DUNCAN, B.C. CANADA, V9L 6M7
PH 250 748 7672 FAX 250 748 7612 CELL 250 246 8541
terrain at shaw.ca
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Sam
Ewbank
Sent: January 31, 2011 5:50 PM
To: Green Building
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Natura Paint - Any thoughts
John
To bad you can't get Synko T.I.P.S. in the USA. The closest USG has is
their "First Coat" primer. With ethylene glycol, petroleum distillates and
voc <95g/l.
I had not heard of using cement pigments before. Are you using iron oxide?
Do you mix the color yourself? Are certain paints better to use such as milk
paint?
Thanks
Sam
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 4:29 PM, JOHN SALMEN <terrain at shaw.ca> wrote:
I don't know - I don't really have experience using them. Have tended to use
milk/clay or mineral finishes. One paint I do specify as a base primer over
drywall is more of a plaster that has incredible coverage that is Synko
T.I.P.S. Ingredients are water titanium dioxide/vinyl acrylic
copolymer/limestone/kaolin(clay)/diatomaceious earth/crystalline silic. It
is classed as low voc (>25g/l). Only available in 5 gallon containers for
about 90 (can also be tinted - I use cement pigments)
JOHN SALMEN ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN
4465 UPHILL RD,. DUNCAN, B.C. CANADA, V9L 6M7
PH 250 748 7672 FAX 250 748 7612 CELL 250 246 8541
terrain at shaw.ca
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Lynelle
Hamilton
Sent: January 30, 2011 1:10 PM
To: Green Building
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Natura Paint - Any thoughts
Thanks, John! What paint (Non-voc) give the best coverage/durability?
Any thoughts?
Lynelle
On 30/01/2011 4:04 PM, JOHN SALMEN wrote:
>
> The home hardware 'natura' is made for them by a Canadian plant called
> 'beauti-tone' and is listed as a non voc. As to whether individual
> stores use a non-voc colourant for mixing you would have to enquire.
> Home depot has a paint made called 'freshaire which supposedly uses
> non-voc tints (you would need to ensure the store is actually using
> those).
>
> _JOHN SALMEN ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN_
>
> /4465 UPHILL RD//,. DUNCAN, B.C. CANADA, V9L 6M7/
>
> /PH 250 748 7672 FAX 250 748 7612 CELL 250 246 8541/
>
> /terrain at shaw.ca/// <http://terrain@shaw.ca/>
>
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> [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] *On Behalf Of
> *David Bergman
> *Sent:* January 30, 2011 11:39 AM
> *To:* Green Building
> *Subject:* Re: [Greenbuilding] Natura Paint - Any thoughts
>
> Others may chime in with more precise info, but...
>
> Aura is a Benjamin Moore line that came out a few years ago. It is
> low- (not no-) VOC. It's big claim is that it requires fewer coats so
> (A) the higher price may be made up in labor as well as paint savings
> and (B) the fewer # of coats also means less total VOCs.
>
> Natura is a newer B-M line that is "real" no-VOC. I believe it was one
> of the first lines that also eliminated VOC's from the pigments as
> well as the base. Other lines lose their low-VOC aspect when mixed to
> deep colors that require a lot of pigment.
>
> I painted parts of my place (as in applied the paint myself) with
> Natura recently and it seemed just fine.
>
> David Bergman RA LEED AP
> *DAVID BERGMAN*ARCHITECT / *FIRE & WATER* LIGHTING + FURNITURE
> architecture . interiors . ecodesign. lighting . furniture
> bergman at cyberg.com www.cyberg.com <http://www.cyberg.com>
> 241 Eldridge Street #3R, New York, NY 10002
> t 212 475 3106 f 212 677 7291
>
> At 01:58 PM 1/30/2011, Lynelle Hamilton wrote:
>
> I am searching for a No-VOC paint for my house. I know that Farrow and
> Ball is great, but can't swing the $$ to prime and paint with it.
>
> I am looking at Aura and Natura, but am confused about Natura. Both
> Benjamin Moore and Home Hardware sell "non-VOC" paints under this
> label. I can't find any information on whether they are indeed the
> same paint, or not.
> Home Hardware's is much cheaper, but I don't know anything about
> quality and coverage.
>
> Can anyone shed light on this? Or, is there a better one out there for
> new walls. I'm painting on my own, so need something available to
> consumers.
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Lynelle
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