[Greenbuilding] Opinions on electric plug-in cars - time for atomic batteries?

Carmine Vasile gfx-ch at msn.com
Tue May 3 13:18:19 PDT 2011


Tedd: I wonder how much radiation is being released into the Pacific by the Fuku-Shima-Dia-Chi plants' salt-water cooling systems. Over 35 years ago EPRI rejected my proposal to switch to vented-double-wall falling-film heat exchanger technology to prevent this --- one of the reasons I quit managing their nuclear power plant safety program. About that time, the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station (SONGS) was spewing radioactive coolant into Uncle Sam's side of the Pacific, yet no evacuation was ordered. 
Carmine
gfxtechnology.com 

Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:21:04 -0700
From: weyman_tedd at yahoo.com
To: steve at tjiang.org; greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Opinions on electric plug-in cars - time for	atomic batteries?



Too bad Daiichi Fukashima did not have atomic batteries. TEPCO's battery operated generators backing up the reactor heat exchangers lasted only a few hours -- the result - core melt, loss of coolant, loss of containment and 000 times more radionuclear contamination than Chernobyl.  TEPCO's been reporting multi Curies per day; as much as 270,000,000 TBq per hour for weeks on end. 
 
Japan's nuke industry scurried away from good old diesel generators much too fast. Nuclear feins that it is green until you look at the complete fuel cycle. My favorite fact about nuclear is this: the United States Enrichment Corporation produces over 90% of ozone layer depleting CFC's emitted annually int he US. Give me carbon over CFC's any day. (and is not reported in the EPA's annual industrial global warming report - in fact, nuclear is exempt from GHG regs)  How may 10,000 X's more efficient are CFC atoms at advancing the greenhouse effect than a carbon molecule? 
 
Give me carbon emissions over global nuclear contamination, any day.
 
As for atomic batteries; Sr you say? that was new to me: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Radioactive_battery
 
There are lots of historical and current energy systems in space using Plutonium and HEU. Here are some: http://www.idealist.ws/nuclearspace.php  This site is a little hyperbolic but they have compiled a good set of data.
 
 
 

 




From: Steven Tjiang <steve at tjiang.org>
To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Cc: Tedd Weyman <weyman_tedd at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 12:54:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Opinions on electric plug-in cars - time for atomic batteries?

"Atomic Battieries"?  AFAIK I know those fancy batteries in satellites are powered by highly radioactive isotopes of strontium, etc.  Many years ago, one came down in northern canada and spewed radioactive wastes.  Spread over a wide area lowers the radiation risks to a non-issue but imagine a car accident in an urban area..... 
---- Steve (KZ6LSD)



On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Carmine Vasile <gfx-ch at msn.com> wrote:


Tedd: Have you checked out the EPA-certified performance of  the Chevy Volt? ("Chevy Volt", IEEE Spectrum, April 2011, pp. 36-7)
   If we ignore source energy, the EPA estimates the Volt returns the equivalent of 93 mpg and will cost US $1.50 to drive 40 miles with electricity costing 12 cents/kWh.
   How the volt will cut Greenhouse Gas emissions, the EPA doesn't say?
   Four decades ago, compact versions of atomic batteries like those used in Sputnik & Voyager were supposed to help us from gassing ourselves with CO2 & NOX.
   What happened?
Carmine
gfxtechnology.com  


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