[Greenbuilding] low flow shower heads

Ron Cascio roncascio at verizon.net
Sat May 14 16:35:04 PDT 2011

Get reasonable/responsible, and dump the 15 gpm waste of hot water. That's what I've had told him. What the hell did he expect from such a rediculous plumbing set up? 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carmine Vasile 
  To: GB Forum ; steve at tjiang.org ; Reuben Demling ; Richard Garbary 
  Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 5:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] low flow shower heads

  Steve, Reuben & Richard: Last week I received a call from the owner of a mult-head shower drawing 15 gpm of 105F water. He lives in North Carolina and his 40 gallon electric tank-type water heater ran out of hot water in a few minutes. I gave him my advice, install a tankless water heater with a 50%-DHR system to halve the load by recycling heat wasted down-the-drain. Solar is not an option.  
     What would your advice have been?

  Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:40:29 -0700
  From: steve at tjiang.org
  To: greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org
  Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] low flow shower heads

  Terminology:A navy shower = turn on to wet skin; turn off to soap; turn on to rinse.A hollywood shower = turn on full blast; start singing; soap; turn off a the end.

  A thermostatic value + volume control is  way better than a navy shower button because you can adjust the volume down to a level just to keep you warm while soaping.  This may convince more people to actually use less water while showering than the pure "Navy shower" approach.   The downside is thermostatic valves and volume controls setups are expensive.


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