[Greenbuilding] low flow shower heads
lee Weaver
lgweaver at gmail.com
Tue May 17 20:36:04 CDT 2011
Why
The water goes right back into the ground. it's not like that water is
destroyed.
now trying to start a fight I'm truly asking a valid (IMHO) question.
Lee
On 5/15/2011 3:13 PM, Ron Cascio wrote:
> The planet cannot afford such individuals with little regard for the
> rest of us.
> Ron
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Carmine Vasile <mailto:gfx-ch at msn.com>
> *To:* Richard Garbary <mailto:richard6 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* GB Forum <mailto:greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 15, 2011 4:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Greenbuilding] low flow shower heads
>
> Richard: Your solution will not satisfy his wife because she made
> him buy a multi-head shower withsix 6 2.5 gpm showerheads. I
> received another inquiry from a homeowner with two back-to-back
> units that would draw 30 gpm. His plumber suggested a commercial
> boiler costing lots of money. Carmine
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:24:15 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] low flow shower heads
> From: richard6 at gmail.com <mailto:richard6 at gmail.com>
> To: gfx-ch at msn.com <mailto:gfx-ch at msn.com>
> CC: greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org
> <mailto:greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>; steve at tjiang.org;
> 9watts at gmail.com; erin at trmiles.com; sacie.lambertson at gmail.com
>
> To start with:
>
> = Keep the 40 gallon water heater. Cost: FREE
> = Put in a 2.5 gal/ 9 liter shower head with flow control/shutoff.
> Cost: ~$10 - $50. This will save him 6x his current energy cost
> = Add an insulation blanket. Cost: ~$20 - $30
> = Put an insulation pad underneath the water heater. Cost: ~$10
> = Insulate any exposed water pipes. Cost: ~$10 - $25
> = Install a 50%-DHR system. Cost: ~$700 - $1,000. In combination
> with the 2.5 gal. shower head this will save him 12x his current
> energy cost!
>
> He'll never run out of hot water with this setup unless he as some
> other bizarre hot water requirements. So tankless is NOT
> necessary. Heat loss through a tank setup is minimal if properly
> insulated. He will not have to upgrade his service $$$$$.
>
> I would definitely NOT recommend a tankless electric/gas water heater.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
>
> =========================================================================================
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Carmine Vasile <gfx-ch at msn.com
> <mailto:gfx-ch at msn.com>> wrote:
>
> Steve, Reuben & Richard: Last week I received a call from the
> owner of a mult-head shower drawing 15 gpm of 105F water. He
> lives in North Carolina and his 40 gallon electric tank-type
> water heater ran out of hot water in a few minutes. I gave him
> my advice, install a tankless water heater with a 50%-DHR
> system to halve the load by recycling heat wasted
> down-the-drain. Solar is not an option.
> What would your advice have been?
> Carmine
>
> Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 13:40:29 -0700
> From: steve at tjiang.org <mailto:steve at tjiang.org>
> To: greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org
> <mailto:greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] low flow shower heads
>
>
> Terminology:A navy shower = turn on to wet skin; turn off to
> soap; turn on to rinse.A hollywood shower = turn on full
> blast; start singing; soap; turn off a the end.
>
> A thermostatic value + volume control is way better than a
> navy shower button because you can adjust the volume down to a
> level just to keep you warm while soaping. This may convince
> more people to actually use less water while showering than
> the pure "Navy shower" approach. The downside is
> thermostatic valves and volume controls setups are expensive.
> <snipped>
>
>
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