[Greenbuilding] low flow shower heads
naturalbuilding at shaw.ca
Tue May 17 19:04:42 PDT 2011
But if twice as much water has to be heated in order to run a high flow shower head, then that is a lot more energy that needs to be generated. And that IS at the expense of the planet..
naturalbuilding at shaw.ca
On 2011-05-17, at 7:00 PM, lee Weaver wrote:
> So then if you are on municipal water systems and are willing to pay for the water and sewer you are then helping the economy (providing jobs for the power, water, and sewer company workers) the water used by the shower will not be polluted to the point that the sewer system will not be able to return it to the aquifer.
> I still fail to see why "The planet cannot afford such individuals with little regard for the rest of us." is a valid stance on this topic when all it does it remove a portion of water from availability for a time, it is returned. It even helps a number of people if you take into account all the people working in the field of supplying the water and energy(if you are on municipal services).
> On 5/17/2011 6:43 PM, Reuben Deumling wrote:
>> Not really that simple.
>> For most of us on municipal water systems there's a lot of
>> infrastructure, energy, pipes, trucks, pumps, chlorine, filters on
>> this incoming end, and a similar but even more complicated and
>> expensive infrastructure on the sewer end. All that costs money and
>> materials to install and maintain and operate.
>> Back in the seventies Amory Lovins figured out that if you back a kWh
>> through the appliance, wires, transmission lines to the power plant
>> and back to the mine, not using that kWh actually translates into a
>> far greater upstream investment that isn't required. Whether it is a
>> factor of 4 or 10 isn't really the point. The same holds true for
>> water except the units and losses are different.
>> The water molecules are still there, but they're always there even
>> after they are polluted or not recharged in the aquifer from which
>> they were pumped. Where the water is, whether it is drinkable, all of
>> this is important.
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:36 PM, lee Weaver <lgweaver at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The water goes right back into the ground. it's not like that water is
>>> now trying to start a fight I'm truly asking a valid (IMHO) question.
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