[Greenbuilding] Microwaved water
Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn
info at ecobrooklyn.com
Mon Sep 26 13:30:26 CDT 2011
Does anyone know if this Buddha person is a credible source?
Gennaro Brooks-Church
Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
www.EcoBrooklyn.com
22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Michael O'Brien <obrien at hevanet.com> wrote:
> Hi, Steve--
>
> There is a teaching of Buddha that seems relevant--
>
> Do Not Believe in Anything
>
> Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
>
> Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
>
> Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your
> religious books.
>
> Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and
> elders.
>
> Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many
> generations.
>
> But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with
> reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept
> it and live up to it.
> I'd say you have the first part of the lesson, and encourage you to
> consider that last part.
>
> Best,
>
> Mike O'Brien
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:50 AM, natural building wrote:
>
> I love it when people (usually with lots of letters after their names) come
> out with categoric statements like: 'This is NOT true'!
>
> If all those people had been 'right' the world would still be flat and we'd
> be feeding Thalidomide to pregnant mothers!
>
> History is saturated with accounts of supposedly intelligent people making
> claims that are later proved to be wrong. We continue to learn. And if
> there's one thing that History teaches us (if we aren't too clever to learn)
> it's that what we THINK is an absolute truth, probably isn't.
>
> Hey, CERN has just discovered that neutrinos might travel faster than the
> speed of light.
> Damn, another 'absolute' belief going out the window... ! Sorry Albert.
> Nice try.
>
> In healthy 'disbelief'
>
> Steve Satow
>
> www.naturalbuildingsite.net
> naturalbuilding at shaw.ca
>
> On 2011-09-26, at 8:49 AM, Joe Killian wrote:
>
> Having spent 21 total years in school culminating in a PhD program in
> Atmospheric Physics, let me say that the poisoned water from a microwave
> story is pure paranoid fancy and you should be careful what you choose to
> believe.
> Joe
>
>
>
> On 9/26/2011 8:31 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote:
>
> Maybe somebody on this list with a microwave can do the test? Seems like a
> pretty big deal worth looking into?
>
> Gennaro Brooks-Church
>
> Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
> www.EcoBrooklyn.com
> 22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM, natural building <
> naturalbuilding at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> While I make no claims as to whether the 'microwaved water' story is true
>> or false.
>> I do question whether 'Snopes' is the right authority with which to
>> categorically dismiss it!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steve Satow
>>
>> www.naturalbuildingsite.net
>> naturalbuilding at shaw.ca
>>
>> On 2011-09-26, at 8:03 AM, Benjamin Pratt wrote:
>>
>> Gennaro,
>> when I read your message i knew the plant experiment couldn't be true.
>> I googled it, and I was right. Here is one link.
>> http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp
>> Ben
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn
>> <info at ecobrooklyn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any thoughts out there about microwaves and radiation? Also I've seen
>> those
>>
>> tests where plants watered with water that was first boiled in a microwave
>>
>> died. I've avoided microwaves for these reasons.
>>
>> Gennaro Brooks-Church
>>
>>
>> Cell: 1 347 244 3016 <1%20347%20244%203016> USA
>>
>> www.EcoBrooklyn.com
>>
>> 22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:23 AM, elitalking <elitalking at rockbridge.net>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Induction stoves are great. I learned about them from this list. My
>> wife
>>
>> started out a little skeptical, but is not a believer. We are moving
>>
>> towards grid tied photovoltaic. The most efficient cooking is
>> microwave. It
>>
>> heats the water first which is the food. The ceramic or glass container
>> is
>>
>> heated by conduction from the food. We do not use plastic. However,
>> some
>>
>> foods like stir fried vegetables, boiled foods or some bread baking do
>> not
>>
>> work in microwave. Foods that require a lot of boiling or frying go to
>>
>> induction stove top. Foods that require baking go to Brevell Oven.
>> This
>>
>> used a typical heat element, but it is smaller than typical oven. The
>>
>> controls are very precise for heating temp and time. It is big enough
>> for
>>
>> almost all we cook. The big Thanksgiving Turkey is the only dinner
>> event it
>>
>> could not handle. However, we discovered that we cut the Turkey up and
>> it
>>
>> is able to cook half the Turkey which is more than enough for our
>>
>> traditionally glutinous meal. It is the least efficient of three.
>> However,
>>
>> it's smaller size and superior control makes it far more efficient than
>> the
>>
>> traditional range, gas or electric.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Benjamin Pratt writes:
>>
>>
>> In my case, with a house that I've tried to tighten-up, but which is
>>
>> still somewhat leaky--I don't exhaust any of the heat from my gas
>>
>> stove. So it's very efficient--any energy that does not cook the food,
>>
>> helps to heat the house.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My comment:
>>
>>
>> The inefficient appliance that produces waste heat is only a benefit
>>
>> during the heating season. In the summer it is an additional liability
>> for
>>
>> comfort or cooling cost of removing that heat.
>>
>>
>>
>> Eli
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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