[Greenbuilding] Microwaved water

Mon Sep 26 19:38:12 CDT 2011

I've been working with a many-years-old (at least 10, probably more) 
version of Dreamweaver (way before it became part of Adobe) and it 
seems to do most of what I need. But I've never stepped up to using 
CSS and am probably using a lot of outdated tools and code, etc. 
Would switching to open source be a good route for me? Can I convert 
my existing sites easily? And keep my own URL's?

David

At 02:30 PM 9/26/2011, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote:
>Does anyone know if this Buddha person is a credible source?
>
>Gennaro Brooks-Church
>
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>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Michael O'Brien 
><<mailto:obrien at hevanet.com>obrien at hevanet.com> wrote:
>Hi, Steve--
>
>There is a teaching of Buddha that seems relevant--
>
>Do Not Believe in Anything
>
>Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
>
>Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
>
>Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in 
>your religious books.
>
>Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers 
>and elders.
>
>Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for 
>many generations.
>
>But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything 
>agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one 
>and all, then accept it and live up to it.
>I'd say you have the first part of the lesson, and encourage you to 
>consider that last part.
>
>Best,
>
>Mike O'Brien
>
>
>
>
>On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:50 AM, natural building wrote:
>
>>I love it when people (usually with lots of letters after their 
>>names) come out with categoric statements like: 'This is NOT true'!
>>
>>If all those people had been 'right' the world would still be flat 
>>and we'd be feeding Thalidomide to pregnant mothers!
>>
>>History is saturated with accounts of supposedly intelligent people 
>>making claims that are later proved to be wrong. We continue to 
>>learn. And if there's one thing that History teaches us (if we 
>>aren't too clever to learn) it's that what we THINK is an absolute 
>>truth, probably isn't.
>>
>>Hey, CERN has just discovered that neutrinos might travel faster 
>>than the speed of light.
>>Damn, another 'absolute' belief going out the window... ! Sorry 
>>Albert. Nice try.
>>
>>In healthy 'disbelief'
>>
>>Steve Satow
>>
>><http://www.naturalbuildingsite.net/>www.naturalbuildingsite.net
>><mailto:naturalbuilding at shaw.ca>naturalbuilding at shaw.ca
>>
>>On 2011-09-26, at 8:49 AM, Joe Killian wrote:
>>
>>>   Having spent 21 total years in school culminating in a PhD 
>>> program in Atmospheric Physics, let me say that the poisoned 
>>> water from a microwave story is pure paranoid fancy and you 
>>> should be careful what you choose to believe.
>>>   Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9/26/2011 8:31 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote:
>>>>Maybe somebody on this list with a microwave can do the test? 
>>>>Seems like a pretty big deal worth looking into?
>>>>
>>>>Gennaro Brooks-Church
>>>>
>>>>Cell: <tel:1%20347%20244%203016>1 347 244 3016 USA
>>>><http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com/>www.EcoBrooklyn.com
>>>>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM, natural building 
>>>><<mailto:naturalbuilding at shaw.ca>naturalbuilding at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>While  I make no claims as to whether the 'microwaved water' 
>>>>story is true or false.
>>>>I do question whether 'Snopes' is the right authority with which 
>>>>to categorically dismiss it!
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Steve Satow
>>>>
>>>><http://www.naturalbuildingsite.net/>www.naturalbuildingsite.net
>>>><mailto:naturalbuilding at shaw.ca>naturalbuilding at shaw.ca
>>>>
>>>>On 2011-09-26, at 8:03 AM, Benjamin Pratt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Gennaro,
>>>>>when I read your message i knew the plant experiment couldn't be true.
>>>>>I googled it, and I was right. Here is one link.
>>>>><http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp>http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp
>>>>>Ben
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn
>>>>><<mailto:info at ecobrooklyn.com>info at ecobrooklyn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Any thoughts out there about microwaves and radiation? Also 
>>>>>>I've seen those
>>>>>>tests where plants watered with water that was first boiled in 
>>>>>>a microwave
>>>>>>died. I've avoided microwaves for these reasons.
>>>>>>Gennaro Brooks-Church
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cell: <tel:1%20347%20244%203016>1 347 244 3016 USA
>>>>>><http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com/>www.EcoBrooklyn.com
>>>>>>22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:23 AM, elitalking 
>>>>>><<mailto:elitalking at rockbridge.net>elitalking at rockbridge.net>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Induction stoves are great.  I learned about them from this 
>>>>>>>list.  My wife
>>>>>>>started out a little skeptical, but is not a believer.  We are moving
>>>>>>>towards grid tied photovoltaic.  The most efficient cooking is 
>>>>>>>microwave. It
>>>>>>>heats the water first which is the food.  The ceramic or glass 
>>>>>>>container is
>>>>>>>heated by conduction from the food.   We do not use 
>>>>>>>plastic.  However, some
>>>>>>>foods like stir fried vegetables, boiled foods or some bread 
>>>>>>>baking do not
>>>>>>>work in microwave.  Foods that require a lot of boiling or frying go to
>>>>>>>induction stove top.  Foods that require baking go to Brevell 
>>>>>>>Oven.  This
>>>>>>>used a typical heat element, but it is smaller than typical oven.  The
>>>>>>>controls are very precise for heating temp and time.  It is 
>>>>>>>big enough for
>>>>>>>almost all we cook.  The big Thanksgiving Turkey is the only 
>>>>>>>dinner event it
>>>>>>>could not handle.  However, we discovered that we cut the 
>>>>>>>Turkey up and it
>>>>>>>is able to cook half the Turkey which is more than enough for our
>>>>>>>traditionally glutinous meal.  It is the least efficient of 
>>>>>>>three.  However,
>>>>>>>it's smaller size and superior control makes it far more 
>>>>>>>efficient than the
>>>>>>>traditional range, gas or electric.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Benjamin Pratt writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In my case, with a house that I've tried to tighten-up, but which is
>>>>>>>still somewhat leaky--I don't exhaust any of the heat from my gas
>>>>>>>stove. So it's very efficient--any energy that does not cook the food,
>>>>>>>helps to heat the house.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My comment:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The inefficient appliance that produces waste heat is only a benefit
>>>>>>>during the heating season.  In the summer it is an additional 
>>>>>>>liability for
>>>>>>>comfort or cooling cost of removing that heat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Eli
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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